Milliken DQ'd 4/30 WoO

[W2Racing09]

Had a driver at Fairbury tell me that top teams get to hand pick tires from Hoosier and therefore are already ahead of everyone else in the tire game. Basically he said whoever spends the most throughout a year gets the best tires available. Anyone know if there is any truth to this or just an excuse to run behind them every week?

Its probably true I'm sure. You want to keep your best clients happy. I doubt they go to Indiana and hand pick 500 tires in January or anything, but I'm sure Hoosier double and triple checks every tire that gets sent to Richards or Bloomquist or anyone else.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[drano]

[QUOTE=W2Racing09;2007652]I don't think Mark Richards gets that perk either. Nobody does. Not Bloomquist, not Owens, not Davenport, not Richards, nobody. Its not some conspiracy to take down "the little guy". As Christman said -- it is bad for the sport for this type of stuff to happen, but even worse to let it go. I'm glad it was caught, it shows everyone from Davenport/Bloomquist/Richards all the way down the line to the local guy who runs a single race all year.. don't try to cheat.

Thanks,
Jeff.[/Q
Don't fool yourself they all cheat in some way, its just tires are not a good area to easy to get caught.

[W2Racing09]

[QUOTE=drano;2007655]

I don't think Mark Richards gets that perk either. Nobody does. Not Bloomquist, not Owens, not Davenport, not Richards, nobody. Its not some conspiracy to take down "the little guy". As Christman said -- it is bad for the sport for this type of stuff to happen, but even worse to let it go. I'm glad it was caught, it shows everyone from Davenport/Bloomquist/Richards all the way down the line to the local guy who runs a single race all year.. don't try to cheat.

Thanks,
Jeff.[/Q
Don't fool yourself they all cheat in some way, its just tires are not a good area to easy to get caught.

Oh I agree there for sure, if after every race you could take every car down to the frame and check everything you could probably compile several pages of rule infractions. As you said though, tires are probably one of the worst areas to cheat or try to gain an advantage (they are easy to tech and highly scrutinized). To me tires are one of the biggest deals in terms of cheating as well, so it is good that they check that on a regular basis.

[zach51]

Yep, the tires are the only thing that touches the ground (ideally)

[slide-skill]

Oh yea it helped , but not really

[derricklong38]

Then why do it if it didn't help

[Aces&Eights]

Hate It.

Sucks for him. Thout it was a lil funny he was pulling away from the pack but o well. Congrats to the squirrel

Could be as simple as they used "Simple Green" to clean the tires. I don't know the guy, he's been running good this season, almost won an Ultimate or Clash race at the same track just a few weeks prior. So I wasn't surprised to see him running up front. Hate it for him and his team if it was a simple goof with cleaner, but its happened to enough guys now they should've known not to use it, if they did. Now if they were doping tires and they got busted, then good, that's whats suppose to happen. If it was a "Simple Green" deal I don't believe it played a roll in the outcome of the race. JMO

Don't fool yourself they all cheat in some way, its just tires are not a good area to easy to get caught.

I'm curious what rules you think are being broken, since so much is open anyway? The engine is open, Fuel injection would be visible, Nitros woud be of little use except maybe in qualifying, you can see under the car so independent suspension is out. TC isnt the magic fix so many uselessly fear, so what area is it you imagine is the sweet spot? The bodies get tech'd prior to and after, shocks are scrutinized, so what is left? I think people that cheat usually believe everybody else is cheating too. Kinda like liars never believe anyone either...

[zach51]

Yes but still, if is softens the tire beyond specs, too bad. If a dog were to wander in the shop and piss on it, same thing. Driver's responsibility to know what is on/in their tires just like a pro-athlete is responsible for knowing what is in their bodies. Ignorance is not an excuse.

[Aces&Eights]

Yes but still, if is softens the tire beyond specs, too bad. If a dog were to wander in the shop and piss on it, same thing. Driver's responsibility to know what is on/in their tires just like a pro-athlete is responsible for knowing what is in their bodies. Ignorance is not an excuse.

They didn't say the tire were soft, the release says, "there were chemicals present that exceeded or were not part of the benchmark", NOT soft. Big difference.

[slmcrewchief99]

Spraying "Simple Green" on them to clean them won't get you. What gets you is if you spray it on them and leave it a day or 2. Spray it on them and wash them off and it will pass.

[CGF]

Its been stated by management at Eldora . That as much as 10g has been spent on tire testing for the world ... I may be off on the grand total but it was a bunch ..for some reason Im thinking it was 10 g

[dirtdobber45]

Im with ya on that crewchief99 those tires would have to soak rather than wipe on wipe off with that 'cleaner' idea. I hate that it happened..love seeing the lil guy beat the pants off the big boys

[MI Dirt Fan]

Im with ya on that crewchief99 those tires would have to soak rather than wipe on wipe off with that 'cleaner' idea. I hate that it happened..love seeing the lil guy beat the pants off the big boys

Not much of a lil guy if you've ever seen the setup they have. Nice hauler couple cars etc.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Not much of a lil guy if you've ever seen the setup they have. Nice hauler couple cars etc.

Yes they have nice equiptment and all.

[dirtdobber45]

The 'lil guy' was pertaining that he was a local or non-touring if we're being picky lol