Milliken DQ'd 4/30 WoO

[Aces&Eights]

Experience Counts.

as I stated in another reply, I'm fairly certain that most the top guys have treated tires, it's just that they have connections that know how to do it without being caught. The "little guy" generally does not have the connections and uses chemicals that work, but get them caught.

I dunno if I agree with this theory, its kinda like the people who can't understand why the local guy gets beat by the traveler, 95% of the time. Could it be that since the traveling guys face, "the best of the best" every night and run upwards of 100+ times a season and are hip to the latest advances that maybe experience counts more than "little guy" thinks? Iron sharpens Iron, which means if you want to run like the best, you better be rubbing up against the best, every night.

Now could a series look the other way sometimes when one of the devoted followers gets outside the lines sometimes? Sure, its possible. I just think people assume, "home field advantage" is more valuable than it is. The travelers have seen every track configuration and surface this country has to offer, multiple times. They work closely with the tire company learning what works and what doesn't, getting that much better every night. Mean while little guy keeps buzzing around the same one or two tracks every week, hoping what he is doing will be enough. Only a regional traveler, that's really on top of his game stands a chance against the national tour guys. There are lots of talented people racing, some are better funded than others, but nothing replaces experience. It takes 10,000 hours to master a skill, how many hours does "Little Guy" have in comparison to the, "Traveler"?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to anger you and I'll admit that occasionally someone will surprise the tour guys and everything will happen the way it needs to for him to find victory lane. Its kinda insulting to all those guys doing what they do, to not recognize the fact that they are better in more ways than just driving ability.

"Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance." - David Mamet
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[a25rjr]

9 out of 10 times, the local drivers don't race on the same tires the natl drivers do. Big difference between the two. It would surprise us all how many natl drivers are treating their tires. Good example, look at the background of Bloomers "crew chief". Not saying he's doing it, but it def wouldn't surprise me.

[Aces&Eights]

9 out of 10 times, the local drivers don't race on the same tires the natl drivers do. Big difference between the two. It would surprise us all how many natl drivers are treating their tires. Good example, look at the background of Bloomers "crew chief". Not saying he's doing it, but it def wouldn't surprise me.

Who is his crew chief? From appearances they seem to be a collection of ruffians he picked up at a dive bar on the way to the track.

[a25rjr]

Who is his crew chief? From appearances they seem to be a collection of ruffians he picked up at a dive bar on the way to the track.

Cody, I think....that's why I put quotations around it. His prep won a ton of big go kart races! Stick and I worked on the same team for a little while. He was a heckuva tire guy!

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Who is his crew chief? From appearances they seem to be a collection of ruffians he picked up at a dive bar on the way to the track.

Lmfao good answer Ace. Now thats funny right there.

Do you know if he has any crew from waffle house?

[zyoung25]

Cody Mallory is his name. I remember it being said over the loud speaker at Eldora last year. You Google his name, you'll find out he wasn't very well liked in the Karting world. Seems he was known to be a dirty driver.

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Cody Mallory is his name. I remember it being said over the loud speaker at Eldora last year. You Google his name, you'll find out he wasn't very well liked in the Karting world. Seems he was known to be a dirty driver.

I guess he kinda fits in then!

[Highside Hustler25]

Who is his crew chief? From appearances they seem to be a collection of ruffians he picked up at a dive bar on the way to the track.

That's a pretty good assessment there. Remember, they are only temporary. Bloomer goes through crew guys like a newborn goes through Pampers'

[onlyfacts]

I dunno if I agree with this theory, its kinda like the people who can't understand why the local guy gets beat by the traveler, 95% of the time. Could it be that since the traveling guys face, "the best of the best" every night and run upwards of 100+ times a season and are hip to the latest advances that maybe experience counts more than "little guy" thinks? Iron sharpens Iron, which means if you want to run like the best, you better be rubbing up against the best, every night.Now could a series look the other way sometimes when one of the devoted followers gets outside the lines sometimes? Sure, its possible. I just think people assume, "home field advantage" is more valuable than it is. The travelers have seen every track configuration and surface this country has to offer, multiple times. They work closely with the tire company learning what works and what doesn't, getting that much better every night. Mean while little guy keeps buzzing around the same one or two tracks every week, hoping what he is doing will be enough. Only a regional traveler, that's really on top of his game stands a chance against the national tour guys. There are lots of talented people racing, some are better funded than others, but nothing replaces experience. It takes 10,000 hours to master a skill, how many hours does "Little Guy" have in comparison to the, "Traveler"?Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to anger you and I'll admit that occasionally someone will surprise the tour guys and everything will happen the way it needs to for him to find victory lane. Its kinda insulting to all those guys doing what they do, to not recognize the fact that they are better in more ways than just driving ability. "Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance." - David MametRead more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...met478663.html

Great Post. Might be the best theory ever posted of national guys vs locals.

[Barbecueboy]

Dalton Wilson is driving the wheels off of the 32. The kid has talent for sure!

I am having a hard time believing he cheated up tires! Out of all nights the WoO night? Im thinking they might have put on the wrong tires. Maybe some tires they run @ clr or clarys!

Never really been a Willie fan but, that night I was pulling for him. David vs. Goliath

We think a lot alike .........

[Barbecueboy]

Who is his crew chief? From appearances they seem to be a collection of ruffians he picked up at a dive bar on the way to the track.

Thanks.........coffee now dripping from nose!!!

[blncfn57]

I dunno if I agree with this theory, its kinda like the people who can't understand why the local guy gets beat by the traveler, 95% of the time. Could it be that since the traveling guys face, "the best of the best" every night and run upwards of 100+ times a season and are hip to the latest advances that maybe experience counts more than "little guy" thinks? Iron sharpens Iron, which means if you want to run like the best, you better be rubbing up against the best, every night.

Now could a series look the other way sometimes when one of the devoted followers gets outside the lines sometimes? Sure, its possible. I just think people assume, "home field advantage" is more valuable than it is. The travelers have seen every track configuration and surface this country has to offer, multiple times. They work closely with the tire company learning what works and what doesn't, getting that much better every night. Mean while little guy keeps buzzing around the same one or two tracks every week, hoping what he is doing will be enough. Only a regional traveler, that's really on top of his game stands a chance against the national tour guys. There are lots of talented people racing, some are better funded than others, but nothing replaces experience. It takes 10,000 hours to master a skill, how many hours does "Little Guy" have in comparison to the, "Traveler"?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to anger you and I'll admit that occasionally someone will surprise the tour guys and everything will happen the way it needs to for him to find victory lane. Its kinda insulting to all those guys doing what they do, to not recognize the fact that they are better in more ways than just driving ability.

"Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance." - David Mamet
Read more at: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...met478663.html

I understand what you are saying, the touring guys are generally just better. Experience is a huge advantage! My point was strictly about tires and the fact that the non touring regulars are the only ones that seem to get caught.

[Aces&Eights]

I understand what you are saying, the touring guys are generally just better. Experience is a huge advantage! My point was strictly about tires and the fact that the non touring regulars are the only ones that seem to get caught.

Maybe Non-Tour drivers feel they need an extra edge to hang with the big guns and reach for the special sauce. Maybe cheating on tires isn't as rampant on the tour as some would lead you to believe... Just maybe the game isn't as rigged as some thought. Maybe they are just that good.

We had a guy that ran super late model at my track growing up, who was an older gentleman. Very low budget, car was several years old, never contended for the win, was usually the first to get the move over flag. Well the promoter ponied up the dough to have, "Sterling Marlin" come and race with the track regulars in the Super division. Now this was probably 87' or 88' so Sterling was in his prime, but he didn't have a car of his own to run. So the older gentleman I mentioned gladly offered to let Sterling drive his car in the feature. No special prep, no super secret setup before hand, he just showed up and drove this guys car. It was like night and day, I've never seen that car run that fast, I didn't think it could.

Sterling had never raced at this track before and he qualified in the top ten. Then he had them make some changes he wanted to the car and went out to run the feature. Within 5 laps he was challenging for 3rd when the motor scattered at the end of the back strait. Wow! I remember everyone looking around in disbelief that just switching the driver had made that car so much faster. Being a stand up guy, Sterling paid to have his engine rebuilt. The reason some are regularly faster than others, isn't always the result of cheating.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Thanks.........coffee now dripping from nose!!!

Well at least whats coming outa ur nose is legal!

[a25rjr]

Maybe Non-Tour drivers feel they need an extra edge to hang with the big guns and reach for the special sauce. Maybe cheating on tires isn't as rampant on the tour as some would lead you to believe... Just maybe the game isn't as rigged as some thought. Maybe they are just that good.

We had a guy that ran super late model at my track growing up, who was an older gentleman. Very low budget, car was several years old, never contended for the win, was usually the first to get the move over flag. Well the promoter ponied up the dough to have, "Sterling Marlin" come and race with the track regulars in the Super division. Now this was probably 87' or 88' so Sterling was in his prime, but he didn't have a car of his own to run. So the older gentleman I mentioned gladly offered to let Sterling drive his car in the feature. No special prep, no super secret setup before hand, he just showed up and drove this guys car. It was like night and day, I've never seen that car run that fast, I didn't think it could.

Sterling had never raced at this track before and he qualified in the top ten. Then he had them make some changes he wanted to the car and went out to run the feature. Within 5 laps he was challenging for 3rd when the motor scattered at the end of the back strait. Wow! I remember everyone looking around in disbelief that just switching the driver had made that car so much faster. Being a stand up guy, Sterling paid to have his engine rebuilt. The reason some are regularly faster than others, isn't always the result of cheating.

You talking about GIS, when Sterling and Mikey hopped in late models!