Chub to Moyer Victory Chassis

[zach51]

And the whole "copy" argument is getting old. Everything is copied from something before it, not just in racing but in all products.

[onlyfacts]

I don't blame a guy for going with a chassis where he feels he can get the most help. I don't think anybody was switching to Capital because they were setting the world on fire, just good customer service and they aren't too big for their britches yet (as my dad used to say).

Guess what ever. But if I was spending the kind of money these cars costs I would want the fastest not one from someone to make me feel warm and fuzzy. I am sure the price difference isn't that much when you are spending that kind of money. Maybe Chub will start winning everyweek with his new longhorn/victory creation but I wouldn't hold my breath.

[zach51]

They are all just hunks of metal. The metal doesn't know what kind of chassis it is bent into. What makes the car fast is the components, time taken to test and tune and get everything working in harmony, and a great driver. With a name like onlyfacts you should know that, that is an easy one.

[onlyfacts]

They are all just hunks of metal. The metal doesn't know what kind of chassis it is bent into. What makes the car fast is the components, time taken to test and tune and get everything working in harmony, and a great driver. With a name like onlyfacts you should know that, that is an easy one.

Believe what you want there is more to it than a hunk of metal. If that was the case no one would ever buy a new car. They would just up date components, test and tune, and win every race. Sounds simple enough. Easy as you make it sound I might buy an old car on ebay, update everything, start testing everyday between now and September then go win the World 100.

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

And the whole "copy" argument is getting old. Everything is copied from something before it, not just in racing but in all products.

There is taking some ideas and there is copying. I am much more tired hearing about which Lucas race is a Crown Jewel.

[zach51]

Obviously a mid 2000's shaw isn't going to be as adjustable and competitive as a 2016 chassis, but they are all good. A big reason drivers switch so often is they may have a backer that is tired of seeing them struggle and want to try something else, or a driver is running terrible and he thinks there is no way in the world that the reason he can't win is because he is a hack, must be the chassis.

[MBR Performance]

The one thing you people forget is this whole"redesigned" longhorn didn't come about until Moyer switched to them when rumley got on board. I would say he had just as much to do with the redesign as rumley did. So I wouldn't call it a copy

[chupp n bloomer fan]

The one thing you people forget is this whole"redesigned" longhorn didn't come about until Moyer switched to them when rumley got on board. I would say he had just as much to do with the redesign as rumley did. So I wouldn't call it a copy

And his Longhorns were named different also.

Big fan of Chub, but I think he's done.

[Barbecueboy]

The one thing you people forget is this whole"redesigned" longhorn didn't come about until Moyer switched to them when rumley got on board. I would say he had just as much to do with the redesign as rumley did. So I wouldn't call it a copy

Are you sure bout that? I thought the timeline fell out a little differently ......

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

The one thing you people forget is this whole"redesigned" longhorn didn't come about until Moyer switched to them when rumley got on board. I would say he had just as much to do with the redesign as rumley did. So I wouldn't call it a copy

Moyer kept complaining he couldnt get any feedback or tech support before he went to" extreme by longhorn"

[Josh Bayko]

And his Longhorns were named different also.

Big fan of Chub, but I think he's done.

Chub hasn't won a race period in 3 or 4 years. He doesn't even win the local shows he shows up to anymore. He's clearly done.

[00Hdmn]

The one thing you people forget is this whole"redesigned" longhorn didn't come about until Moyer switched to them when rumley got on board. I would say he had just as much to do with the redesign as rumley did. So I wouldn't call it a copy

You are 100% completely wrong. Kevin Rumley was the man behind the redesign, Moyer was just there for feedback driving the cars. There was a big story about it two or so years ago when It happened.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

Chub hasn't won a race period in 3 or 4 years. He doesn't even win the local shows he shows up to anymore. He's clearly done.

I agree. It's sad. Used to be cool when he'd show up at Lernerville. Now, he's just another car.

Big fan of his, why it's hard to admit it. He went from being near the top, to very mediocre. Maybe this will turn him around, I just fall into your ballpark of thought on Chub.

[MBR Performance]

Feedback includes changes in design and I'm sure some of Moyer's ideas were incorporated into the car.

[Raceready]

I agree. It's sad. Used to be cool when he'd show up at Lernerville. Now, he's just another car. Big fan of his, why it's hard to admit it. He went from being near the top, to very mediocre. Maybe this will turn him around, I just fall into your ballpark of thought on Chub.

49 years of running in circles. Maybe he is just plain burned out with all the work he does at his shop to keep scores of others in the north east racing ?