Chub to Moyer Victory Chassis

[Josh Bayko]

49 years of running in circles. Maybe he is just plain burned out with all the work he does at his shop to keep scores of others in the north east racing ?

I'm sure he is burned out some. Maybe it's time to step away from driving and put somebody else in the car. There are plenty of young shoes around PA that could fill the seat admirably.

[Barbecueboy]

Moyer kept complaining he couldnt get any feedback or tech support before he went to" extreme by longhorn"

You could have probably stopped the sentence after the third word and then put a period.........

[Barbecueboy]

Feedback includes changes in design and I'm sure some of Moyer's ideas were incorporated into the car.

I think you are giving Billy a little too much credit.......he had everything to do with the longhorn extreme project offering.

The initial redesign from the boat anchor phase to the base longhorn of today, not so much I don't think.

[Dante Toledo, OH]

Chub hasn't won a race period in 3 or 4 years. He doesn't even win the local shows he shows up to anymore. He's clearly done.

I agree, I grew up a Chub fan and still am. It seems to me that when the cars changed from carrying the left front 2 feet in the air to how they run now is where he kinda got behind and never has got caught up.

[RoadtoPennsboro]

But, what if he just likes racing still? I'm a fan and he's forever a legend in my neck of the woods (I watched him start LM's in the 04) but if he wants to run because that's what he still loves then awesome. He doesn't have to win anymore to earn my respect. It's still neat to me seeing the 1* show up on an off night and race locally. I felt the same with Ron Davies. Had Ron not (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) near killed himself at Lernerville he might still be driving just because he loves it. Now he's a WoO Champion as a car owner. Maybe Chub will transition to ownership as well but for now it's cool seeing him still do it with whatever chassis he wants.

[Barbecueboy]

But, what if he just likes racing still? I'm a fan and he's forever a legend in my neck of the woods (I watched him start LM's in the 04) but if he wants to run because that's what he still loves then awesome. He doesn't have to win anymore to earn my respect. It's still neat to me seeing the 1* show up on an off night and race locally. I felt the same with Ron Davies. Had Ron not (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) near killed himself at Lernerville he might still be driving just because he loves it. Now he's a WoO Champion as a car owner. Maybe Chub will transition to ownership as well but for now it's cool seeing him still do it with whatever chassis he wants.

That's a great post........

[onlyfacts]

Feedback includes changes in design and I'm sure some of Moyer's ideas were incorporated into the car.

Where did you get your engineering degree from? I thought you worked at a factory....

[kidrock]

But, what if he just likes racing still? I'm a fan and he's forever a legend in my neck of the woods (I watched him start LM's in the 04) but if he wants to run because that's what he still loves then awesome. He doesn't have to win anymore to earn my respect. It's still neat to me seeing the 1* show up on an off night and race locally. I felt the same with Ron Davies. Had Ron not (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) near killed himself at Lernerville he might still be driving just because he loves it. Now he's a WoO Champion as a car owner. Maybe Chub will transition to ownership as well but for now it's cool seeing him still do it with whatever chassis he wants.

That's a great post........

I have to agree great post and so true.

[chupp n bloomer fan]

49 years of running in circles. Maybe he is just plain burned out with all the work he does at his shop to keep scores of others in the north east racing ?

If he was burned out, he'd quit racing. He just has fell behind and has yet to catch up. I know he helps alotta guys in the NE. Never been to his shop, believe my brother has with his good friend. Who last I knew was still tight with Chub. Used to have his old stacker.

I'm a big fan of his, just stating what I've seen.

[MBR Performance]

I don't work at a factory I'm a project manager for a company.

[Kromulous]

He races and sells tee shirts for a living, not alot of other choices for him. I am not sure if his family has a farming buisness or not, but i was always under the impression it was racing, and thats his only revnue stream.

Not really easy if you raced all your life and now your slow, so you should just quit. I guess you can just quit living too. Car owner, maybe, but most racers like Chub arnt wired to be owners.

I hope, he can get back to good with the new cars. Dont really care what cars.

[blncfn57]

Where did you get your engineering degree from? I thought you worked at a factory....

A degree has very little to do with anything. The really good "engineers" were smart before they went and sought a degree. There are engineers that only have the job they have because of a degree and they are dumber than a 20 lb mall. There are also people who hold engineering positions with no degree and are good at their job.

[onlyfacts]

A degree has very little to do with anything. The really good "engineers" were smart before they went and sought a degree. There are engineers that only have the job they have because of a degree and they are dumber than a 20 lb mall. There are also people who hold engineering positions with no degree and are good at their job.

In Pennsylvania it is against the law to list your business name as "engineering" with out an engineering degree.

[jlacey]

I always liked Chub since the 1st time i saw him at a STARS race in the early 90s. I was a kid/teenager working at Potomac so id be there hours before the gates opened and would sit in the tower or bleachers watching all the trailers roll in. All the touring guys had their big haulers and here would come Chub with his Suburban (i think it was) and open trailer. Him and Francis pretty much dominated that series in the last few years and both are kinda in the same boat now. Id love to see them both winning again but one is lucky to get a top 5 behind Clanton and Richards and the other with Bloomer and JD

[Raceready]

But, what if he just likes racing still? I'm a fan and he's forever a legend in my neck of the woods (I watched him start LM's in the 04) but if he wants to run because that's what he still loves then awesome. He doesn't have to win anymore to earn my respect. It's still neat to me seeing the 1* show up on an off night and race locally. I felt the same with Ron Davies. Had Ron not (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) near killed himself at Lernerville he might still be driving just because he loves it. Now he's a WoO Champion as a car owner. Maybe Chub will transition to ownership as well but for now it's cool seeing him still do it with whatever chassis he wants.

You might as well say he is into maybe a semi retirement. He only runs WoO and hardly ever ventures outside of that. Most nights when there is a regional race when the outlaws aren't running he can be found toiling away in his shop. Its harder to win more when the odds are less because of not participating more. He is lucky he came back from that crash at McKean County that he got knocked out at. Many thought he was dead by the way he was slumped over the wheel.