Are race fans in the south getting shafted??

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  • fastford
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2008
    • 4059

    #31
    Originally posted by ptown View Post
    What a joke, I wouldn't pay 10 cents to see that garbage.
    that's great ptown, you save that money, you may need it...

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    • jr29
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 829

      #32
      Originally posted by toyracer View Post
      HLQ & running heats still stinks imo. Fast guys still qualify up front & you get no passing in the heats or mains.

      I understand qualifying from time to time but on weekly shows shouldn't happen.
      They also use passing points in heats and run a dash.

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      • bite me too
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 795

        #33
        I lived in GA for 15 years ('99 - '14) and hated the formats for the shows I went to. And, I went to a ton of them.

        I've had "discussions" with the fans of qualify and start heads up many many times. Their argument is the fastest guy has worked hard "all week" to be the fastest car at the track so he shouldn't be "punished" by having to start anywhere than on the pole. When I've told them of how its down in the Northeast (where I know live again) where the top points guy is "handicapped" and usually starts outside the top 10 they tell me "that's stupid". However, the RACERS up here do not think so...30+ Big Block style Modified cars a week for 24 starting spots on a flat 1/4 mile for 25 laps. Last Saturday the top points guy started last and made it to 2nd with one caution on lap 3. The winner started on the pole and has been irrelevant in every other race this year.

        Real "race fans" from the deep south qualify start heads up group would sh*t themselves if they ever saw it!!!
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        http://www.ctcphotos.com/hommel.htm

        "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan

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        • cgrace
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2013
          • 903

          #34
          im fine with qualifing n heats what kills me is too many classes in midwest which cause show to go till midnihgt

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          • fastford
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2008
            • 4059

            #35
            Originally posted by bite me too View Post
            I lived in GA for 15 years ('99 - '14) and hated the formats for the shows I went to. And, I went to a ton of them.

            I've had "discussions" with the fans of qualify and start heads up many many times. Their argument is the fastest guy has worked hard "all week" to be the fastest car at the track so he shouldn't be "punished" by having to start anywhere than on the pole. When I've told them of how its down in the Northeast (where I know live again) where the top points guy is "handicapped" and usually starts outside the top 10 they tell me "that's stupid". However, the RACERS up here do not think so...30+ Big Block style Modified cars a week for 24 starting spots on a flat 1/4 mile for 25 laps. Last Saturday the top points guy started last and made it to 2nd with one caution on lap 3. The winner started on the pole and has been irrelevant in every other race this year.

            Real "race fans" from the deep south qualify start heads up group would sh*t themselves if they ever saw it!!!
            your entitled to your opinion just like me. My question to you is, while you were down here, why on earth would you keep going a ton of times to anything you " hate so much" for 15 years?

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            • W2Racing09
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 1691

              #36
              Originally posted by fastford View Post
              your entitled to your opinion just like me. My question to you is, while you were down here, why on earth would you keep going a ton of times to anything you " hate so much" for 15 years?
              Horrible racing is better than no racing in my opinion. I wouldn't be happy to live in the South and see that kind of show every week either, but I would still be going to races once or twice every weekend.

              I think something in between is ideal. Like a top 6 redraw before the feature or something like that. Don't guarantee that the fastest car will start on the pole. That is a recipe for bad racing, and racing is a spectator sport and needs fans to survive.

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              • pig tracker
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2015
                • 104

                #37
                I agree and I should know-I'm currently staying in a Holiday Inn Express which makes me really, really smart.

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                • bite me too
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 795

                  #38
                  Originally posted by fastford View Post
                  your entitled to your opinion just like me. My question to you is, while you were down here, why on earth would you keep going a ton of times to anything you " hate so much" for 15 years?
                  I didn't say I hated racing. just the format. and, it's the only format so I was "stuck" with it.
                  www.ctcphotos.com

                  http://www.ctcphotos.com/hommel.htm

                  "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan

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                  • dmr37
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 565

                    #39
                    If qualifying, with fastest guy starting on the pole, is good enough for Nascar, it's good enough for me!

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                    • B_K
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 3236

                      #40
                      Troy, Troy,Troy.....

                      I am a real race fan. I have seen it both ways. I still don't like the idea of making a good car start behind some jack wagon that might turn right or left when he gets to a corner.

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                      • castone
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 717

                        #41
                        If that good car starts up front he will probably be lapping that jack wagon, and he still may get you in the turns. If you have a race car, and don't won't to race it, you may need to get another hobby.

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                        • STRONGERTHANDIRT
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 753

                          #42
                          Originally posted by castone View Post
                          If that good car starts up front he will probably be lapping that jack wagon, and he still may get you in the turns. If you have a race car, and don't won't to race it, you may need to get another hobby.
                          Exactly!!!

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                          • Late_Model_Mark
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 2321

                            #43
                            Living in the South is awesome in my view, our formula at TST works and the fans do not gripe about our weekly format. Our track features 2 and 3-wide racing each and every dang week. You can race at TST and the "freight trains " stay on the rails. As I posted on Midsouth, a post that Doc started there I have stated my views that have evolved over the year, costs, the era that we are in and so forth.


                            We run the absolute tightest shows in the South and we finish on most nights by 10:45p.m. after hot laps start at 7:15p.m.

                            If you have 20 cars should you really heat race? Maybe, maybe not. We heat race the other 5 classes.



                            Late Model Mark
                            TST Announcer

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                            • old fan
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2016
                              • 4191

                              #44
                              never been to weekly or for for that matter big race without heat races example this weekend some lil event in Ohio , I 've been to shows had heat dash maybe semis in 5 classes and be done by 10 30 or 11 that's with a 15 minute intermission

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                              • B_K
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2007
                                • 3236

                                #45
                                And I'd say it's not the lottery where you get to win a pill draw. No need to penalize a guy for being fast.

                                We're not going to change each other's opinions, so have a good one.

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