Dqed from dream

[DEKconsulting]

Half the tires on the hoosier truck prolly wouldnt pass lab tests or the sniffer

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

This thread is going to set a record on 4m for most posts along w views. Lmao

13,350 views as of this post

[Barbecueboy]

It is comical that people think buying tires the day of the race is a possibility. Most drivers spend 30 minutes to a hour siping, grooving, and grinding each tire. If you put a spec tire with nothing allowed you will see races just like Indy was for NASCAR a few years ago where if Hoosier screws up there will be pit stops every 15 laps. Also the endless possibilities of tires is what makes most races exciting, the guy that leads uses up his tires and has to fight the dogs off. Everybody wants to complain that the aerodynamics of the cars are causing the racing to worsen (which isn't true) then go ahead and put everybody on the same tire and watch the train race happen. Frankly I don't care who got busted but everybody seems to have an opinion on how to fix it without doing anything but watching it instead of being in the shop Monday through Friday

But aren't the guys that are in the shops Monday through Friday the ones that just got caught using the current system of enforcement?

The way you are making it sound , it's the tires that make them all so good???

You don't think if they were all put on the same tire that the better drivers would figure out how to get around somebody??

I will respectfully disagree.

[Barbecueboy]

Half the tires on the hoosier truck prolly wouldnt pass lab tests or the sniffer

You noticed that too?

[old fan]

Is there a membership fee for this RATS

no you just have to have a race car that is mostly and or green

[blncfn57]

As for your last statement. I see it the other way around. Lucas drivers going to WoO. Guys like JD, McCreadie, Erb, O'Neal etc want a fair shake. They don't want to run against cheaters if they don't have to. Just my opinion.

The standard is, don't bake chemicals into your tire....... pretty simple. So, do you want them to set a limit that its ok to do it this much, but not this much? Idk, the whole deal is a bad subject because right now in this country we are all about blaming the enforcers and not the ones breaking the rules. 32 samples and 5 were found outside the benchmark. Wonder how them other 27 samples didn't result in DQ's. I'm guessing because they were not from a chemically altered tire. If the test is wrong we would have seen alot more guys getting in trouble.

[TackyTracker]

can't really say I'm surprised here...

[Bigracer93]

BBQ boy even the events with spec tires (Arizona) allow siping and grinding. You take that away which is what making drivers buy tires at a track will do and all you will see is guys in line trying not to blister tire because tire has no way to release heat. Also most of the national guys are sponsored by Hoosier tires so there goes those sponsorships so you're taking more money from the driver

[blncfn57]

Half the tires on the hoosier truck prolly wouldnt pass lab tests or the sniffer

5 found illegal out of 32 tested. How did all the others manage to pass???

[formercrewguy]

This thread is going to set a record on 4m for most posts along w views. Lmao

13,350 views as of this post

12,000 was ME!!!! lol

[cutman]

You noticed that too?

Just curious, not bashing. What was there to notice?

[waaac77]

Curious what the record is for most posts??? Views?

[Josh Bayko]

This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Let em run open tires OR make them buy them at the track the day of the race.....clearly the methods of selective enforcement being used arent working.

Lucas suspended Terry Casey back in the day, but Casey admitted he soaked his tires.

[slmcrewchief99]

Say what you want about the procedure but when we have been checked (and have multiple times) they do a pretty good job of it. They have you take "you're" grooving iron and have "you" cut 3 to 4 1" long plugs out of the tire all around it. Not just in 1 place. The series rep has on rubber gloves to keep his hands away from it. "You" take the pieces and place in a ziplock bag, then place in a "Piss Bottle" like you use at the dr. They tape the bottle up and you sign it, put it in a sealable envelope and then the Crewman or Driver that does the cuts MUST SIGN the package. No it's not CSI but they are attempting to do it the best way possible at the track.

Another thing that some of ya'll may not consider is WHICH tire did they get a sample of. We have NEVER been checked when they took samples of all 4 tires. Depending on the many different factors at the track as to what tire to cheat and what tire that may get checked play in to all this. ANY or ALL of the Dream finishers could have used an illegal tire. If they checked everyones left rear but they had a doped RF then we will never know now will we. It's happening everywhere and at EVERY race. Guys are doing what they can to win races. They have a 75% chance of getting away with it. That's why they do it. The odds are in their favor. ALL the sanctioning bodies NEED to come together and do something. Until it hits the teams at ALL races then its a mute point. Fine them, suspend them from "ALL" races for a few months (longer for multiple offences), and make it known what the exact infraction was. All the series need to GROW a set and come together to make a change.

[victorylane]

In response to those that can't believe teams would actually prep tires.

LOL!! ya there's no way they would do that. LOL! wake up. they did it and they got caught. quit blaming the system. The Dirt Late Model world would be better if these series would take this more seriously. Don't just slap your own stars on the hand and tell them to be careful cause they might get dq'ed. Also, Tire prep chemicals DOES NOT save anybody any money. That makes me laugh everytime I hear that one. Any racer that tells you that is the one that can't keep up without it. JMHO.