Dqed from dream

[blncfn57]

As for your last statement. I see it the other way around. Lucas drivers going to WoO. Guys like JD, McCreadie, Erb, O'Neal etc want a fair shake. They don't want to run against cheaters if they don't have to. Just my opinion.

The standard is, don't bake chemicals into your tire....... pretty simple. So, do you want them to set a limit that its ok to do it this much, but not this much? Idk, the whole deal is a bad subject because right now in this country we are all about blaming the enforcers and not the ones breaking the rules. 32 samples and 5 were found outside the benchmark. Wonder how them other 27 samples didn't result in DQ's. I'm guessing because they were not from a chemically altered tire. If the test is wrong we would have seen alot more guys getting in trouble.

[old fan]

Is there a membership fee for this RATS

no you just have to have a race car that is mostly and or green

[Barbecueboy]

Half the tires on the hoosier truck prolly wouldnt pass lab tests or the sniffer

You noticed that too?

[Barbecueboy]

It is comical that people think buying tires the day of the race is a possibility. Most drivers spend 30 minutes to a hour siping, grooving, and grinding each tire. If you put a spec tire with nothing allowed you will see races just like Indy was for NASCAR a few years ago where if Hoosier screws up there will be pit stops every 15 laps. Also the endless possibilities of tires is what makes most races exciting, the guy that leads uses up his tires and has to fight the dogs off. Everybody wants to complain that the aerodynamics of the cars are causing the racing to worsen (which isn't true) then go ahead and put everybody on the same tire and watch the train race happen. Frankly I don't care who got busted but everybody seems to have an opinion on how to fix it without doing anything but watching it instead of being in the shop Monday through Friday

But aren't the guys that are in the shops Monday through Friday the ones that just got caught using the current system of enforcement?

The way you are making it sound , it's the tires that make them all so good???

You don't think if they were all put on the same tire that the better drivers would figure out how to get around somebody??

I will respectfully disagree.

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

This thread is going to set a record on 4m for most posts along w views. Lmao

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[DEKconsulting]

Half the tires on the hoosier truck prolly wouldnt pass lab tests or the sniffer

[SLIDING SIDEWAYS]

Is there a membership fee for this RATS

[Bigracer93]

It is comical that people think buying tires the day of the race is a possibility. Most drivers spend 30 minutes to a hour siping, grooving, and grinding each tire. If you put a spec tire with nothing allowed you will see races just like Indy was for NASCAR a few years ago where if Hoosier screws up there will be pit stops every 15 laps. Also the endless possibilities of tires is what makes most races exciting, the guy that leads uses up his tires and has to fight the dogs off. Everybody wants to complain that the aerodynamics of the cars are causing the racing to worsen (which isn't true) then go ahead and put everybody on the same tire and watch the train race happen. Frankly I don't care who got busted but everybody seems to have an opinion on how to fix it without doing anything but watching it instead of being in the shop Monday through Friday

[old fan]

RATS (Racers Against Tire Sampling) and the official motto is "we only washed them" #ýblamesimplegreen #ýitwasntme the official spokesmen for RATS Bloomquist Owens Sheppard Satterlee #ýstraightouttatireprep < cause you used it all at Eldora Speedway

[W2Racing09]

WOW. I find it hard to believe that crew chiefs, owners, and drivers would risk getting caught. I believe if they are gonna check random, all tires from every car are tested. Make results public! This who was and wasn't tested is BS! Feel for fans that some of those drivers wont be a specific show now though.
Anyone remember Hartman soaking his tires in creek at Pennsboro at DTWC? Also a lot of the drivers, and crew chiefs are pushing the boundaries. Totally agree that WRG (UMP, WOO) and Lucas Oil need to work together and set standards. As I can see the possibility of Lucas coming after WOO drivers now.

Well it is a fact that Richards was tested and passed, and if WRG was trying to screw over Lucas guys they would of tested/failed Erb to hand the win to Richards.

I don't get how people can't accept that these guys soaked tires and move on. Seriously, is it that hard to believe Bloomquist or Owens do it? They have both been caught before.

Thanks,
Jeff.

[blncfn57]

I like how crow and you speak for all Bloomer fans, comical. I don't for a second think he didn't juice tires. Only one I have doubt about is Ricky Thornton Jr. The other 4 I'd go with guilty as charged.

And for crow, 6'2" 200, no tats, don't smoke.

I'm far from a bloomer fan, although I try not to bash him simply because he is very talented. I have no doubt about any of them. Why would you have a doubt about Thornton? He may not have even known and may not have allowed it had he known, but the owner of that car has been caught on several occasions. My comment was simply that NONE of these 5 will admit it, even if they are guilty. Most murderers deny murdering people too......

[jr29]

Well they'd just lie about the lie test. ....Eldora scales was wrong. Tire test wrong. Lie test wrong. It'd never end. Lol

Yes. It's embarrassing.

[Snake X3]

So let me get this straight.........another poster said that an official named Sam was walking around the pits , snipping tires and putting samples into ziplock baggies.

Well that sounds like a very legit way to collect samples......doesn't it?
No possible way any of those samples could be tainted or handled incorrectly........right?

LOL! You sound like Barry Scheck at the OJ trial, bro'! If they are going to take large amounts of cash and suspend drivers they need to make sure they handle the evidence properly.

[Pennsboro23]

WOW. I find it hard to believe that crew chiefs, owners, and drivers would risk getting caught. I believe if they are gonna check random, all tires from every car are tested. Make results public! This who was and wasn't tested is BS! Feel for fans that some of those drivers wont be a specific show now though.
Anyone remember Hartman soaking his tires in creek at Pennsboro at DTWC? Also a lot of the drivers, and crew chiefs are pushing the boundaries. Totally agree that WRG (UMP, WOO) and Lucas Oil need to work together and set standards. As I can see the possibility of Lucas coming after WOO drivers now.

As for your last statement. I see it the other way around. Lucas drivers going to WoO. Guys like JD, McCreadie, Erb, O'Neal etc want a fair shake. They don't want to run against cheaters if they don't have to. Just my opinion.

[formercrewguy]

And this..............

Bloomquist..................." i diint do nuttin".....