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[Barbecueboy]

someone asked where the American racer and goodyears were at....rules were you could only run hoosier LM20 and LM40 tires, nothing else. hoosier has contracts with lots of tracks and sacntions so no other tires can be run. google the lawsuits where American racer has sued them before on this trying to create a monopoly. I remember the first one was back in the early 80s. as for someone that asked about the benchmark, it's whatever hoosier has submitted to the lab as the chemical makeup of the tire. it is given to them at the start of the season for the compounds. if hoosier runs out of what they were making tires with when they gave the lab the benchmark, it won't match the benchmark. or if someone returns or trades in a tire from another batch and then it's sold to someone this year, it doesn't meet the benchmark. hoosier also has started making lots of tires in Taiwan to save costs. think they have the same chemical make up as the ones they make here for their testing tires that are given to the lab for the benchmark? since wrg doesn't post the results, does anyone even know they sent all 32 samples in? press release only stated that 32 were COLLECTED and 5 came back as failed. also took over 2 weeks for results when they take 3-4 days and most all series know results by the following weekend. there are way too many variables to consider other than just someone did or did not soak their tires.

We have sammys word that all 32 were sent in..........that's all we need right?

No need for any documentation, publication, or professional courtesy.......just need the word of the guy that says he did.

Good enough for me, how bout everybody else?

Excellent post by the way.

[Finnfan]

Can't help but wonder what Bloomer soaked his left rear in before hot laps...thumbtacks maybe...

[oldfart50]

They were not accused. They were flat out caught cheating.

The fans , sponsors and teams of dirt track racing want more done........not just the fans of the 5 that were accused. And if you haven't heard any drivers or teams complaining about the tire deal and how it's enforced, clearly you don't get out much. I found a thread from back in 2011 on 4 m after about a 30 second search that echoes the same mistrust and concern of how the rules and testing is implemented.. And I didn't have the first post in it.............nobody complaining about it, pfffffft, give me a break. And the lab is credible and totally above reproach because a lot of people use them??? A lot of people used Enron,Fannie May and Freddie Mac too. Status quo sheep just crack me up.

[Barbecueboy]

They were not accused. They were flat out caught cheating.

Then why the allowance of the appeal if it's so flat out???

[oldfart50]

When I have to lower my IQ to converse with you it makes my head hurt...

Then why the allowance of the appeal if it's so flat out???

[powerslide]

Can't help but wonder what Bloomer soaked his left rear in before hot laps...thumbtacks maybe...

I was trying to find a picture to post but nothing. His LR grooves on that tire were way wider than anyone elses in the hot lap pictures i saw. Maybe thats why he has been late so much lately, they are trying to get it on at the last second so it doesn't soak in as deep and wears off. But once that tire explodes i think the gig is up. Rarely does a LR come apart like that.

[old fan]

And your brains are where let me guess you sit on them

[victorylane]

if this lab made these mistakes your talking about please post them on here because I don't remember what your talking about. Please enlighten me. I don't want to have to look it up. I want someone to post it on here so I know what they are referring to. thanks

[Barbecueboy]

When I have to lower my IQ to converse with you it makes my head hurt...

where you have it stuck, it should at least stay warm......

[powerslide]

From what i remember they are referring to the time the gentleman won the carolina crown(his name slips my mind) on American Racers and they came back hot. American racer had changed the tire he was running and not sent in a new benchmark, they sent in a new benchmark and he was proved to be legal. That is the only time i have heard of someone winning an appeal.

[Barbecueboy]

From what i remember they are referring to the time the gentleman won the carolina crown(his name slips my mind) on American Racers and they came back hot. American racer had changed the tire he was running and not sent in a new benchmark, they sent in a new benchmark and he was proved to be legal. That is the only time i have heard of someone winning an appeal.

That is the one that is front of mind....and it's a great example of what could and does happen more times than anyone may think or want to admit......doesn't necessarily have to be the lab that screws it up, the whole chain the tire follows doesn't really allow for a real good way to track who or what may have touched or contaminated it.

The guy was just lucky and smart enough to be able to prove his innocence to a guy(who hasn't been doin it the same way forever).........

Was a 30k dollar race and Scott ( Autry)drove a hell of a race to win it.....and then lose it.....and then win it again and then blah, blah,tire, blah, tire, blah, blah.

[Hovlane]

Ya alot of people use that lab...... Alot of people go to Walmart too, you know for the low prices and High Quality lol

[old fan]

Name a lab better I am sure everyone wants to know

[Hovlane]

My dad is bigger than your dad... I'm not playing that childs' game lol see ya

[a25rjr]

Yea but chit happens!

It was in another thread last yr right after bloomer came up light.
A25rjr was bloomers atty at that time.

Yep! That 40k contingency fee made a nice down payment on my new truck!

Thank you.....have a nice day!