Facebook "Live", Hurting Our Sport?

[CIRF]

As far as this live thing goes. A person has to use a wifi or their own personal phone data to play these races live. I've yet to see a whole race night live. Unless it's a person related to the race track in someway, I don't see any one person playing a whole night of racing live over facebook, talk about racking up data, which would lead to a enormous phone bill.

According to the guys I talk to that are watching this stuff the A-main is generally what is broadcast live. That's what they are looking to see. In the case of the Terre Haute show whoever was doing the broadcasting was able to do the whole 30 lap A-main.

[huskerdirt]

A track in my area has already put a ban on this Facebook live stuff. Not sure how they are gonna enforce it.

[153J]

last week i downloaded periscope after this topic came up on around the dream
i was able to watch live video from 10+ tracks that are nowhere close too my driving range for a single night
and because of what i watched i added a track to my travel bucket list

i also utilized it to broadcast a few races, i asked the track and series and neither said no
i figure if its someone from many miles, states, time zones away its not a problem
if the viewers are local fans just sitting home, well thats not good on many levels

[Cardirt0]

I was told if you send a video of a live pay event you are braking the Law....

[huskerdirt]

I was told if you send a video of a live pay event you are braking the Law....

Correct. Your ticket to a race track doesn't grant you broadcast rights. I haven't been to a big concert in awhile, but every ticket stub I had said "No camera and video". The same principle applies to this Facebook live and periscope.

[Cardirt0]

A track in my area has already put a ban on this Facebook live stuff. Not sure how they are gonna enforce it.

Lets say Fairbury sends a Stop posting our races on periscope and they dont .. They can be taken to court.. And it can cost periscope a lot of money if they dont...

[CIRF]

if the viewers are local fans just sitting home, well thats not good on many levels

As I said before, some of the content these friends of mine are watching for free originates at tracks within an hour of their house.

Correct. Your ticket to a race track doesn't grant you broadcast rights. I haven't been to a big concert in awhile, but every ticket stub I had said "No camera and video". The same principle applies to this Facebook live and periscope.

I'm not a lawyer, not even close, but common sense would dictate that what you say is correct.

[cdustyr1]

Hopefully Gunner from FALS doesnt mind me quoting him from this topic on a Facebook discussion "Personally, I think the videos from Mudboss,Racing411,Grandstands Videos and Dirtondirt have propelled FALS to a whole different level. The big races have exploded and much of that is due to the videos out there on youtube and facebook. It's actually one of the best things that's ever happened for us."

The thing with FALS is they have built the atmosphere, people are not just coming to view the features, they are coming to participate in the entire event.

[kidrock]

Hopefully Gunner from FALS doesnt mind me quoting him from this topic on a Facebook discussion "Personally, I think the videos from Mudboss,Racing411,Grandstands Videos and Dirtondirt have propelled FALS to a whole different level. The big races have exploded and much of that is due to the videos out there on youtube and facebook. It's actually one of the best things that's ever happened for us."

The thing with FALS is they have built the atmosphere, people are not just coming to view the features, they are coming to participate in the entire event.

Exactly, I don't usually go to the bigger shows only because I myself don't like being around bigger crowds plus I did not care for the 2 day shows when the feature was ran on a seperate night (I know that has now changed)but, for those that do it doesn't get any better then at Fals or Eldora.

[huskerdirt]

Hopefully Gunner from FALS doesnt mind me quoting him from this topic on a Facebook discussion "Personally, I think the videos from Mudboss,Racing411,Grandstands Videos and Dirtondirt have propelled FALS to a whole different level. The big races have exploded and much of that is due to the videos out there on youtube and facebook. It's actually one of the best things that's ever happened for us."

The thing with FALS is they have built the atmosphere, people are not just coming to view the features, they are coming to participate in the entire event.

I wish more tracks would get on board with putting races on YouTube. I go to I-80 just about every week and the racing has been really good in all of the classes. Last week 3 of the 6 features were last lap/photo finishes. Outside of the people that are there, nobody knows how good the racing has been. A small investment with a camera and somebody that wants to do it would do wonders for them. You can make that up in the front gate within a week.

[huskerdirt]

As I said before, some of the content these friends of mine are watching for free originates at tracks within an hour of their house.


I'm not a lawyer, not even close, but common sense would dictate that what you say is correct.

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a statement prohibiting streaming start appearing on ticket stubs(just like the rainout policy) in the near future.

[Cardirt0]

But Muddboss has the rights too do the Races.. They are not put out LIVE...You can buy his cds..Part of what he makes goes too the track...
FarmerCity Tells all that go to the infield that only the ones with a Press pass can take pic..If you do you will be Bared from track...

[CIRF]

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a statement prohibiting streaming start appearing on ticket stubs(just like the rainout policy) in the near future.

Husker, I wouldn't be surprised, as well.

[Aces&Eights]

Over the past few months, I've noticed that the "live" feature on Facebook is becoming more and more prominent as folks begin to use this relatively new tool. While I've seen the "live" feature used by tracks for promotional purposes, I'm beginning to notice a not so great trend in the amount of fans who are streaming these races on their personal or even media/company pages. With this becoming more of a common place, I'm also seeing fans request others to stream races online for their entertainment purposes which I believe will begin to hurt track attendance? I understand the whole point of keeping those connected, but I'm afraid this cool feature will become abused and ultimately hurt our sport.What are your opinions? Should tracks intervene with this as fans are ultimately stealing your show for others who are not helping your track economically?

Disagree. I think allowing people to share will lead to more interest in the sport and hopefully add to growth. There is NOTHING, like actually being there, period.

[TerryM]

Hopefully Gunner from FALS doesnt mind me quoting him from this topic on a Facebook discussion "Personally, I think the videos from Mudboss,Racing411,Grandstands Videos and Dirtondirt have propelled FALS to a whole different level. The big races have exploded and much of that is due to the videos out there on youtube and facebook. It's actually one of the best things that's ever happened for us."

The thing with FALS is they have built the atmosphere, people are not just coming to view the features, they are coming to participate in the entire event.

Bingo. It's free advertisement. The only way it's a problem is if the product sucks. That's what keeps people away.