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  • Barbecueboy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 18116

    #46
    Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
    Why do you send me emails about good race track surfaces with little dust and tacky and turn around and put me down on the forum? You can't have it both ways. Either you like dusty rock hard and usually one lane racing or you like the track prepared with some moisture down in it, which is it?

    And CN your Rockford comment was uncalled for. It's just your way of being cute I realize.

    I like a track to look like this.


    NOT THIS



    When fans quit coming to races because of the dust, they don't usually call the promoter to tell them why. I am trying to make a difference for those people in the future and speaking up for them.

    Why would people want to set at a track and get covered with dirt every Saturday night? Many have sinus and lung issues, I see them covering their mouths with rags but it gets in your eyes real bad to. I'm not afraid to point this out.

    Water the track to keep the fans and bring the others that have quit back. Makes total sense.

    I'm done talking with promoters about track issues. I've learned that it doesn't not make one bit a difference. They are going to do what they see fit. Been there and done that enough to have learned that much.
    It's all social medias fault.........
    Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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    • zeroracing
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1014

      #47
      From the owner of a car standpoint it is a fraction of the cost to race on dry slick as is it on heavy. If we race a slick track we have very little wear and tear, motor does not work hard and car is easy to get ready for the next race. If we race on heavy we usually have more random things bend, break, bind up... Also we work the motors very hard. A modern car produces so much more traction than the days when everything was heavy all the time, track goes heavy we don't take it out we just work on getting it to turn. Also typically heavy tracks get more guys to try to be superman and usually end up with much more body damage.

      From the driver stand point, a track with a good cushion and or tacky hammer down is a lot of fun to drive on, I won't lie there. However Dry is a challenge as well. I dislike rough, tacky and smooth is a blast though.

      If all tracks were tacky all the time you would see much less cars, same reason many bigger tracks are struggling at times. Our cars now can put down everything we have to offer if there is bite in the track, so something starts to break. It is fun to race on but not feasible to keep it going long term. The answer is not easy, it's not aerodynamics or shocks or bump stops or four links it is the combo of everything. One rule won't make the cars suddenly slow down. Look at cars like the USRA b mods, 3 links and limited motors, some of them are flat flying! Knowledge is growing in the sport at all levels and guys are figuring out ways to keep getting more power down and speeds up. The by product of that is very few can afford to race heavy hammer down and or big tracks weekly.

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      • old fan
        Banned
        • Jan 2016
        • 4191

        #48
        maybe the cars need to be changed then just a thought

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        • Clayton_Wetter
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 16671

          #49
          Sometimes I think there is a deal going on between the promoter and the tire distributors. There's enough rubber put down to wear down a lot of tires. Thus they sell more tires and take a cut of the action!

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          • old fan
            Banned
            • Jan 2016
            • 4191

            #50
            didn't see much rubber put down Saturday night at Highland speedway and you know brownstown has always been that way but look also the car counts you think that might have something to with it

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            • Clayton_Wetter
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 16671

              #51
              Originally posted by old fan View Post
              didn't see much rubber put down Saturday night at Highland speedway and you know brownstown has always been that way but look also the car counts you think that might have something to with it
              No it's showing black way before hot laps are even over.

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              • hoodpin
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 806

                #52
                Happens to tracks all over the country. If it bothers you that bad I'd get a new hobby or stay home. Simple solution.

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                • Barbecueboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 18116

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Clayton_Wetter View Post
                  Sometimes I think there is a deal going on between the promoter and the tire distributors. There's enough rubber put down to wear down a lot of tires. Thus they sell more tires and take a cut of the action!
                  This comment could also fit nicely into just about any tire doping thread..........it's all really about selling tires.

                  Sorta like the speed limits across the country..........put in and enforced under the guise of safety and while all that may be true to an extent and was what it was first intended for,it's real purpose now a days is more for a revenue stream and to line the coffers.
                  Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                  • Clayton_Wetter
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 16671

                    #54
                    Originally posted by hoodpin View Post
                    Happens to tracks all over the country. If it bothers you that bad I'd get a new hobby or stay home. Simple solution.

                    Maybe many will start doing just that. Or continue to, it's happening, like it or not.

                    Fix the problem, seems the better answer.

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                    • Clayton_Wetter
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 16671

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                      This comment could also fit nicely into just about any tire doping thread..........it's all really about selling tires.

                      Sorta like the speed limits across the country..........put in and enforced under the guise of safety and while all that may be true to an extent and was what it was first intended for,it's real purpose now a days is more for a revenue stream and to line the coffers.

                      Yes the tire business is busy with all the extra tires needed for dry slick racing. And the side business of chemicals for them.

                      I would think that this is something the EPA would jump on sooner or later the way things are going.

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                      • Barbecueboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 18116

                        #56
                        I'm not sure about the side business thing, but they sell more tires because of the tire rules in place and that's pretty much a fact.........I don't think even the dumbest mutt would disagree.
                        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                        • old fan
                          Banned
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 4191

                          #57
                          How about less classes

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                          • old fan
                            Banned
                            • Jan 2016
                            • 4191

                            #58
                            And clayton you need to find another track

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