Daugherty(IN): UMP Summer Nationals tonight. 7/5/2016

[kipling]

Now they list 16 after time trials with Hammer in group 1 and Bobby in Group 2. Must have gotten there late.

[pierceFAN]

DoD shows Bobby qualifying in the #32... Maybe they got it fixed...hope so

[MI Dirt Fan]

Were you guys really expecting 25-30 cars on a Tuesday night after a holiday weekend????

[old fan]

at a track with no locals ,tracks like belle Claire has 4 tracks to pull from plus the track is always great

[Cardirt0]

What you expect Track was closed for 3 years.. dont run lates... closest track I think is like 60 + miles... 16 cars on a Tue better then Most....

[ILRaceFan007]

Last year they returned to the tour for the first time since 2009 and had 37 cars. On a Wednesday, after a show in Odessa, MI the night before and LaSalle was next up.

First show after the 4th on a Tuesday last year was VCS here in Danville, got rained out.

18 cars is pretty bad, no matter who you are, where you are, what night of the week you are running. Stop making excuses. Car counts are down this year, and everyone should be trying to figure out ways to fix it, not a. complain about it or b. make excuses for it.

[ILRaceFan007]

The post by chathamracefan is what I'm talking about. Throwing out an idea. That's what needs to happen. Ideas brought to the table. Don't think that HellTour crew doesn't get on here and read these, they do.

[jr29]

I wasn't expecting 55 cars but 14 seemed pretty sparse. I don't think that's an outlandish statement.
I'd say 18-24 seemed about right. They got 16 so not far off.

[bullring]

I think these summernationals races were paying 5,000 to win more than 20 years ago.

[ILRaceFan007]

They ended up with 18, jr29, but after 37 last year and looking at the trends this year, I was guessing 28-30 tonight.

[Cardirt0]

SN Close to Death give it 2 or 3 years then Gone....

[fastford]

Last year they returned to the tour for the first time since 2009 and had 37 cars. On a Wednesday, after a show in Odessa, MI the night before and LaSalle was next up.

First show after the 4th on a Tuesday last year was VCS here in Danville, got rained out.

18 cars is pretty bad, no matter who you are, where you are, what night of the week you are running. Stop making excuses. Car counts are down this year, and everyone should be trying to figure out ways to fix it, not a. complain about it or b. make excuses for it.

saw TRUMP speak today, he said he could fix it...........

[mstew75]

I think these summernationals races were paying 5,000 to win more than 20 years ago.

Precisely why there are hardly any SLM teams and tracks that run them anymore. Same pay as 20 years ago and how much has the cost to operate a SLM gone up in 20 yrs? I blame car owners, tracks, fans, series sponsors, drivers, sanctioning bodies. Nothing and I mean nothing has been done to fix the problem. Racing will continue to die until track promoters tell the sanction bodies to go screw themselves, team up with their neighboring tracks, set up affordable classes and actually try to rebuild/save our sport..

[Cardirt0]

Precisely why there are hardly any SLM teams and tracks that run them anymore. Same pay as 20 years ago and how much has the cost to operate a SLM gone up in 20 yrs? I blame car owners, tracks, fans, series sponsors, drivers, sanctioning bodies. Nothing and I mean nothing has been done to fix the problem. Racing will continue to die until track promoters tell the sanction bodies to go screw themselves, team up with their neighboring tracks, set up affordable classes and actually try to rebuild/save our sport..

Will not help some people with money will cheat too win and spend lots of money too do it ,..... WHY cause they CAN.....

[racecar1127]

Thanks to anyone who gives updates,