Why so slow at Eldora in the trucks

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  • MotoMatt
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2013
    • 314

    #1

    Why so slow at Eldora in the trucks

    Why are the trucks 5 seconds slower than the late models at Eldora? My assumption is they are heavier, less power and not really built to be on dirt...what am I missing?
  • bite me too
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 795

    #2
    they are heavier, have less power and aren't made for dirt.
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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14322

      #3
      Originally posted by MotoMatt View Post
      Why are the trucks 5 seconds slower than the late models at Eldora? My assumption is they are heavier, less power and not really built to be on dirt...what am I missing?
      Yep. Heavy. Less Power. Horrible tire. Heavy. Horrible suspension. Heavy
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • WVdirtguy1
        Junior Member
        • Apr 2016
        • 16

        #4
        Yep they have very little grip just look at how they slide around like they are on grease. But it makes for a fun race to watch.

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        • MotoMatt
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2013
          • 314

          #5
          Yea, i just got hooked up with sling tv's new side with fox sports instead of ESPN and can't wait to watch tonight.

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          • CIRF
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 8122

            #6
            The same question can be asked in regards to why dirt late models are so much slower than winged 410 sprint cars. Does that mean late models are heavy. Horrible tires. Heavy. Horrible suspension. Heavy, as compared to a top notch 410 winged sprint car. I think not

            The teams have these trucks set up to accommodate being raced on a dirt track. These racing machines have to adhere to rules as they relate to the genre and division in which they compete whether they're raced on dirt or concrete or asphalt.

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            • a25rjr
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 3774

              #7
              They aint got them special "tars" either!........well..... some of them might!
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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14322

                #8
                Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                The same question can be asked in regards to why dirt late models are so much slower than winged 410 sprint cars. Does that mean late models are heavy. Horrible tires. Heavy. Horrible suspension. Heavy, as compared to a top notch 410 winged sprint car. I think not

                The teams have these trucks set up to accommodate being raced on a dirt track. These racing machines have to adhere to rules as they relate to the genre and division in which they compete whether they're raced on dirt or concrete or asphalt.
                Actually the sprint car speed is very simple. LIGHT. LOTS of aero. Huge Tires

                They also have Horrible Suspension.

                The trucks are forced by NASCAR to have horrible suspension regardless of surface. You are correct. In a way, late models have horrible suspension too, but at least it is optimized for the dirt.
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • Barbecueboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 18116

                  #9
                  Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                  They aint got them special "tars" either!........well..... some of them might!
                  Was thinking the same thing........all the dirt late model guys cheat it up at every turn, or so I've heard recently.
                  Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                  • CIRF
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8122

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                    Actually the sprint car speed is very simple. LIGHT. LOTS of aero. Huge Tires

                    They also have Horrible Suspension.

                    The trucks are forced by NASCAR to have horrible suspension regardless of surface. You are correct. In a way, late models have horrible suspension too, but at least it is optimized for the dirt.
                    You're right on all counts. But it all boils down to the same thing. Lighter racecars with more horsepower and devices to pin the car to the racing surface are always going to be faster and more nimble than heavier, more cumbersome racing machines. On any given occasion the big, heavy, cumbersome machines can, and do, produce better and more exciting racing than their lighter, more powerful cousins. The key words are on occasion.

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                    • Snake X3
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2016
                      • 1529

                      #11
                      They mentioned the trucks can't run more than 1.5 inch stagger for one thing

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                      • Clayton_Wetter
                        Banned
                        • May 2007
                        • 16671

                        #12
                        Famous NASCAR drivers will be there, that's enough to sell out. The racing is secondary. Heavy trucks on a hard black slick track going so slow that they can't help but be side by side! Sounds like it's just going to be GREAT!!!!

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                        • pig tracker
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2015
                          • 104

                          #13
                          They need Bloomer there to fix their tires

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                          • zach51
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1362

                            #14
                            faster and hooked up isn't always better.

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                            • zach51
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1362

                              #15
                              embarrassing run by rico. came up a little short.

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