New Lucas Tire Rule and a New Chassis for Owens

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  • Returning to Dirt
    Banned
    • Jun 2009
    • 5046

    #1

    New Lucas Tire Rule and a New Chassis for Owens



    Michael and Richard discuss two major developments in dirt racing and there possible impacts.
  • Aces&Eights
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2016
    • 237

    #2
    I'm not in favor of this rule or the Rumley rule, more rules don't make things cheaper or better competition. How are you suppose to set the car up at the shop if you don't get tires till your at the track? Somebody needs to resurrect the NDRL, quick. As to JO running a Rocket, I don't think a switch is going to prove magical. I think the departure of Chris Fox was a deep blow to that team. Barry builds fine cars, they won the Lucas points just 2 or 3 seasons ago, but Lucas is far more competitive than WoO can ever hope to be and getting more so all the time, maybe switching to WoO would be more lucrative endeavor.

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    • Bubstr
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 3734

      #3
      I can't say I'm for any of these new rules that makes all the cars the same. It's a recipe for expensive cars, not a money saver. It makes any gains smaller and more expensive in the long run.

      As far as the tire rule goes, we have never heard about what boogieman chemical is the people killer, that prompted the tire rule. I'm sure EPA isn't looking for WD40 (fish oil) or Dawn dish detergent, which we have all ate a bunch of, that was on our dishes. Maybe it is paint solvents that are sold over the counter to clean paint brushes. Could it be oil of wintergreen, that you eat in life savers?

      Wouldn't it make more sense, to call out this boogieman chemical and ban it and it alone and there wouldn't be any wiggle room in the rule, like I washed my car with this. Wouldn't it make sense to say Hexoclorithane is deadly and illegal, or any other chemical that they decidedly wish not to share, instead of penalizing racers that wash their car with a detergent. If you made the rule simple and to the point, it would be more effective and easier to enforce, unless this isn't about health hazards and cost.

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      • Aces&Eights
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2016
        • 237

        #4
        I say go back to sniffer before qualifying and no open treating of tires at track, no grooving, no sipping, no wrapped tires. Simple.

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        • Barbecueboy
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2013
          • 18116

          #5
          Originally posted by Bubstr View Post
          I can't say I'm for any of these new rules that makes all the cars the same. It's a recipe for expensive cars, not a money saver. It makes any gains smaller and more expensive in the long run.

          As far as the tire rule goes, we have never heard about what boogieman chemical is the people killer, that prompted the tire rule. I'm sure EPA isn't looking for WD40 (fish oil) or Dawn dish detergent, which we have all ate a bunch of, that was on our dishes. Maybe it is paint solvents that are sold over the counter to clean paint brushes. Could it be oil of wintergreen, that you eat in life savers?

          Wouldn't it make more sense, to call out this boogieman chemical and ban it and it alone and there wouldn't be any wiggle room in the rule, like I washed my car with this. Wouldn't it make sense to say Hexoclorithane is deadly and illegal, or any other chemical that they decidedly wish not to share, instead of penalizing racers that wash their car with a detergent. If you made the rule simple and to the point, it would be more effective and easier to enforce, unless this isn't about health hazards and cost.
          They just need to be honest about the tire rule..........it's not written because of the health hazards.....it's not written because of the potential dangers and it's certainly not written to save the racer any money.
          Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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          • dirtdobber45
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 7226

            #6
            Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
            They just need to be honest about the tire rule..........it's not written because of the health hazards.....it's not written because of the potential dangers and it's certainly not written to save the racer any money.
            Could be this
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            If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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            • old fan
              Banned
              • Jan 2016
              • 4191

              #7
              and your point is woo has a tire choice at many tracks but guess what same results

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              • a25rjr
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 3774

                #8
                Originally posted by Barbecueboy View Post
                They just need to be honest about the tire rule..........it's not written because of the health hazards.....it's not written because of the potential dangers and it's certainly not written to save the racer any money.
                That's the post of the year on this subject!

                Let them do whatever to their tires.......just givem a punch rule! Very very very little policing needed!
                Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                • Centeroff
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 1896

                  #9
                  I got a smooth 100$ that the zero beats the 6 this weekend. Can't give 0 a week off from racing and not expect him to bring a bullet this week

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                  • a25rjr
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2016
                    • 3774

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Centeroff View Post
                    I got a smooth 100$ that the zero beats the 6 this weekend. Can't give 0 a week off from racing and not expect him to bring a bullet this week
                    Haha, true! Knowing Scott, hes probly developed a clear prep that is applied to the wheel and dissolves once the tire builds a little heat!
                    Turn LEFT, Vote RIGHT!

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                    • Barbecueboy
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 18116

                      #11
                      Can somebody tell my why a tire company can't build a tire that does what the racer wants?

                      If the racer is prepping trying to make it fire , do the tire companies not know how to make a tire that will fire?

                      Or is it that they just don't want too?
                      Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                      • Barbecueboy
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 18116

                        #12
                        Do the racers really know more about tires than the tire companies?

                        That's just pretty darn hard to believe.
                        Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                        • dirtdobber45
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 7226

                          #13
                          Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                          Haha, true! Knowing Scott, hes probly developed a clear prep that is applied to the wheel and dissolves once the tire builds a little heat!
                          Sssshhhhhh dont say things like that....suppose to be a secret lol
                          If I havent offended you please be patient Ill get to you as soon as I can...... and yes Im a Bloomquist fan...deal w it!!! WWG1WGA!!!

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                          • Barbecueboy
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 18116

                            #14
                            Originally posted by a25rjr View Post
                            Haha, true! Knowing Scott, hes probly developed a clear prep that is applied to the wheel and dissolves once the tire builds a little heat!
                            Old smokey peach......
                            Where is the move over flag when you need it?????

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                            • Centeroff
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 1896

                              #15
                              I know it's the same for everyone but these guys are gonna have to figure out a way to scuff the right rear and fast. I think the no scuffing or cutting the tire is complete hogwash. I'm assuming that they do not want the teams to be able to have much alone time with the tire. I guarantee you see a lot of swirving before feature time because the drivers are gonna try to get the right rear scuffed asap. The rubber on the new tire will not have grip until the skin as we call it is gone. Old timers believe the tire will not fire at all unless the the skin is grinded off to the "good rubber". It could definitely affect the balance of the cars. Imo they should mark the tires and distribute them to the drivers the day of the race.

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