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  • 1bbmft
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 1388

    #1

    Transmission rule change?

    Heard a rumor around Thanksgiving that UMP MIGHT allow Bert, Brinn transmissions in the Street Stock class for 2016. This would be a smart move for safety and cost. But no one will know till mid August when the rule book comes out. LOL, anyone heard anything?
  • Krooser
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 3117

    #2
    How are these safer and cheaper?
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    • 1bbmft
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1388

      #3
      $500-$600 for a used rebuilt Burt/Brinn. VS $500 for a rebuilt Saginaw and then add in the cost of the flywheel $300, Clutch $300-$400 a throw out bearing $125 You do the math. Then you have all those turning parts that could come apart and injure a drivers legs. It's a no brainer.

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      • lazermod3
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 1910

        #4
        Originally posted by 1bbmft View Post
        $500-$600 for a used rebuilt Burt/Brinn. VS $500 for a rebuilt Saginaw and then add in the cost of the flywheel $300, Clutch $300-$400 a throw out bearing $125 You do the math. Then you have all those turning parts that could come apart and injure a drivers legs. It's a no brainer.
        Would be a smart move on UMP's part.
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        • Krooser
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 3117

          #5
          If you think the fast guys are buying used your wrong. $1600 for the trans... $425 for the bellhousing... $250+ for the starter. Then you'll hear "we need the reverse mount fuel and pwr steering pumps so we can save even more $$$"... that's another $600 plus the new lines.

          Racers are their worst enemies....
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          • IAMN21
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 157

            #6
            [QUOTE=1bbmft;1975745]$500-$600 for a used rebuilt Burt/Brinn. VS $500 for a rebuilt Saginaw and then add in the cost of the flywheel $300, Clutch $300-$400 a throw out bearing $125 You do the math. Then you have all those turning parts that could come apart and injure a drivers legs. It's a no brainer.[/Q

            LOL Raced for 25+ years never saw or bought a good used bert or brinn for $500.00 or $ 600.00 Have bought a lot of good saginaw transmissions out of the junk yard for $60.00 or $75.00 though and still have some. Be careful what you wish for

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            • 1bbmft
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1388

              #7
              Spend on new if you want but I bought a used rebuilt Falcon for $600 and raced it 22 timed this past season and plan to run it another 25 this coming season. Then I can rebuild it (if it needs it) for around $150. I use a GM aluminum bell housing that I bought from a local speed shop for $75 and it worked just fine. And with no parts to fly around IF I blow a clutch it's safe. I agree some will spend BIG money on new parts but you wanna see my pictures in victory lane!!!!!!! LOL

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              • Krooser
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 3117

                #8
                Waitin' for pix...
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                • Hurst390
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 188

                  #9
                  I've been waiting for this rule change. I paid 500 for mine and have not had to touch it. Just an old jeep bellhousing. They are out there..And I've been wanting to run some SS races. They sure need something different other than a bunch of monte carlo's


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                  • Crash 4
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 671

                    #10
                    Typical ! Everyone wants the rules changed to what they have in their car or laying around in their garage, never mind that you will make 100's of other guys stuff obsolete. Then everyone wonders, where's all the cars?? Maybe they should go to quickchanges also. LOL. Racers are their own worst enemy.

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                    • Hurst390
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 188

                      #11
                      right!..lol
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                      • lazermod3
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2008
                        • 1910

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Krooser View Post
                        If you think the fast guys are buying used your wrong. $1600 for the trans... $425 for the bellhousing... $250+ for the starter. Then you'll hear "we need the reverse mount fuel and pwr steering pumps so we can save even more $$$"... that's another $600 plus the new lines.

                        Racers are their worst enemies....
                        Krooser,your playing with yourself.I know of racers that have gotten rid of their outdated equipment,and went with a Brinn type setup,including the bell,and starter.

                        This system is much safer then the clutch type units,and power-slides which are liable to explode at any time.

                        Like it or not UMP is making a smart choice.And I almost forgot to mention,as one person said,(WHERE ARE ALL THE CARS!)they must have moved to the midwest,as the field is full at the race tracks that I attend,and allow the use of this type of unit.
                        you just got greased
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                        • ugly1
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 216

                          #13
                          So are they allowing them?

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                          • Manymore
                            Junior Member
                            • Nov 2014
                            • 11

                            #14
                            street stocks morphing into sportsman before our eyes.I'd bet the guys with the monster roller motors are the ones Lobbying for them the most.

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                            • DaveBauerSS6
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 566

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Hurst390 View Post
                              I've been waiting for this rule change. I paid 500 for mine and have not had to touch it. Just an old jeep bellhousing. They are out there..And I've been wanting to run some SS races. They sure need something different other than a bunch of monte carlo's


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