Rules Difference

[stock car driver]

A couple other items. IMCA and USRA actually tech cars. UMP does NOT tech cars. Also UMP tires are more expensive and do not last as long.

Also UMP is in Hoosiers back pocket 100% so anything Hoosier says on tires is what will happen since hoosier is paying the bills, to believe otherwise is false.

IMCA is steel heads ONLY.

USRA has a few engine options with weight breaks depending on which you run. aluminum heads are allowed.

UMP its run what ya brung for engines in fact used NASCAR motors are in order if you can float it.

In general there is ZERO tech other than body panels.

In UMP since the rules are so wide open no one really techs anything they will show up and look at your belts or cage a little but that its other than body panels.

Beware if UMP tech shows up they will go over your body panels as if your car was part of the Indy 500, but under the hood and suspension anything goes.

I know your primary goal is to put down ump.

But IMCA and USRA are sanctions and they don't tech cars, tech is done at the track level and some tracks do more than others, for the most part at both IMCA and USRA rolling across the scales and checking of the msd chip visually or dial is about all youll see. And of course they might glance at your tires. There are of course a few over achiever tech men here and there, but they are very few and far between.

As car counts drop, TECH also decreases, local tracks don't want to dq a driver and have suspend him and lose that car for xxx weeks as well as his buddies or others who were cheat the same way or more because now they fear being caught.

[calverton]

Rusty mod alway will knock ump its in his blood

[gumby_32d]

Cost money to run up front weekly. A front running full blown UMP mod can run close to the cost of a LM.
Thank you David stremme.

[calverton]

never seeen stremme win though

[93Nelson]

Didn't he sell a car of his for 75k last year or the year before? Can't remember for sure. He won with it then some guy bought it.

[calverton]

the team that finished 2nd in UMP buillt his own car family built built motor, lost the championship on the last weekend of racing

[BTExpress]

Again being a OWM neophyte, do the purses warrant drivers being full time racers? I am familar with names like Gustin, Sanders, Hughes, Thorton, Strickler & Hoffman, etc. but was not sure if they are full time racers or not?

[rustymod]

Rusty mod alway will knock ump its in his blood

perhaps. however you Lite Inn always kiss UMP's backside. Too bad you have nothing invested in the sport other than the PC you use to type on 4m.

Besides that you cannot factually argue against anything I posted on UMP its all true and exactly what racers at the track are facing and complaining about.

[rustymod]

I know your primary goal is to put down ump.

But IMCA and USRA are sanctions and they don't tech cars, tech is done at the track level and some tracks do more than others, for the most part at both IMCA and USRA rolling across the scales and checking of the msd chip visually or dial is about all youll see. And of course they might glance at your tires. There are of course a few over achiever tech men here and there, but they are very few and far between.

As car counts drop, TECH also decreases, local tracks don't want to dq a driver and have suspend him and lose that car for xxx weeks as well as his buddies or others who were cheat the same way or more because now they fear being caught.

So what you want but IMCA and USRA do push on local tracks to do tech. UMP does not, since you run IMCA I suspect you have not been to a weekly UMP track where no one looks at anything. At least at a local level IMCA will tech. Are you saying you are not teched with IMCA ??

[calverton]

Have you been to Ump track lately

[sirleafalot]

I have been to two of three last season and what I saw was local tech before and after the race at a MN IMCA track. On the UMP side they checked the belts and look quickly at back of car. I went to a USRA race to watch only and saw measurement of the front end inspection of the components. I have not seen this at UMP tracks ever.

[stock car driver]

So what you want but IMCA and USRA do push on local tracks to do tech. UMP does not, since you run IMCA I suspect you have not been to a weekly UMP track where no one looks at anything. At least at a local level IMCA will tech. Are you saying you are not teched with IMCA ??

I don't race any more sold out this year.

I was clear in what I said about IMCA and USRA.

And yes I have been at Ump tracks back when I ran stock car specials all over and they teched about the same as usra and IMCA, looked at tires, looked at 2 barrel carb and rolled across scales.

[Ryan21mid]

IMCA modified turnkey NEW best of the best 36-42,000
USMTS modified turnkey NEW 65-75k for average, more money for best of the best

I don't think there's quite that big of a spread between USRA and IMCA. We run USRA mods and for a brand new MB, which I would consider the best of the best right now, they're 25,000 rolling with shocks. By the time you add tranny, pumps, etc, you'd prolly be at 30-32k. Add a Mullins or Pro Power Spec Engine for 20k? I'd say race ready 50-55k.

In IMCA the only differences I see is the reverse mount pumps, tubular lowers, aluminum calipers, and engine. A top of the line 604 from Hendren or Friesen is around 10k? Race ready you'd have to be around 40k.

UMP is another story.

[calverton]

Long built his own car family built motor, just because you have top notch equipment won't make a winner many years exp and talent will win in any sanction

[calverton]

http://www.propowerracing.com/engines.html