Rules Difference

[93Nelson]

Again being a OWM neophyte, do the purses warrant drivers being full time racers? I am familar with names like Gustin, Sanders, Hughes, Thorton, Strickler & Hoffman, etc. but was not sure if they are full time racers or not?

i would probably say they are as close to "full time" as you can get on this level. There's financial banking that is helping these guys along too. Whether it's a team owner and/or sponsors, family etc. I'm not saying there's something wrong with that. Just saying you probably couldn't make it just off the purse.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Every year IMCA officials visit each of the IMCA tracks, I'm assuming In their region, to inspect the cars for thier sake, to make sure the actual IMCA official is doing it correct and to get driver input on any possible changes for the future.

[rustymod]

Every year IMCA officials visit each of the IMCA tracks, I'm assuming In their region, to inspect the cars for thier sake, to make sure the actual IMCA official is doing it correct and to get driver input on any possible changes for the future.

exactly, IMCA does show up and they do push for tech at the local level heck even AMRA pushes for a local tech person that follows there rules. This does not happen in UMP at the modified level. It happens much more often in USRA and IMCA. To say otherwise means one of two things...One you go to the one or two UMP tracks where the track actually care enough to do there own tech or TWO you dont go to enough UMP tracks to see whats really going on.

Sam will send out a couple of emails to alert everyone about a race thats coming up and thats all. Its run what ya brung UMP style.

Lite Inn you keep typing about home built motors and cars how cheap it is with good skills to build your own car and compete, so why arent you doing it ?

Most winning at IN tracks are running Rhyne power engines at 15k or more to be able to compete Sure you may have some bright spots where a few can build there own engines but that is the exception and not the rule. Most are on Bull Power, Rhyne or other big money engine to keep up.

[stock car driver]

Every year IMCA officials visit each of the IMCA tracks, I'm assuming In their region, to inspect the cars for thier sake, to make sure the actual IMCA official is doing it correct and to get driver input on any possible changes for the future.

Wow, that is not true, If you were a IMCA member and read guys columns you would know that not all tracks are visited by IMCA. There are only 11 total IMCA employees, in columns its been mentioned its been xxx years since I attended a event etc. Many times.

Tom G who lives 20 minutes from me hits some tracks usually within driving distance. Brett, Kirk etc hit some but its laughable that you think they are as organized as you claim. They don't even have national rules like they claim, being in Michigan you should know that. You have tracks up there with a claim still and that never got a spoiler on the crate etc.

Not sure why this thread got so de railed, the guy asked the differences. None of the classes are cheap to race with the best stuff and run up front at the big specials.

[calverton]

You been at the bad tracks I know tracks that dropped Ump b mod class that is

[MI Dirt Fan]

Wow, that is not true, If you were a IMCA member and read guys columns you would know that not all tracks are visited by IMCA. There are only 11 total IMCA employees, in columns its been mentioned its been xxx years since I attended a event etc. Many times.

Tom G who lives 20 minutes from me hits some tracks usually within driving distance. Brett, Kirk etc hit some but its laughable that you think they are as organized as you claim. They don't even have national rules like they claim, being in Michigan you should know that. You have tracks up there with a claim still and that never got a spoiler on the crate etc.

Not sure why this thread got so de railed, the guy asked the differences. None of the classes are cheap to race with the best stuff and run up front at the big specials.

They come to MI every season. Usually in a truck pulling a small enclosed trailer with a golf cart in it. IMCA stickers on the truck and trailer. They're dressed in IMCA officials clothing and have New York plates. I've seen them working alongside the track IMCA official during pre race and post race inspections.

Drivers wanted the claim. When they went to the engine swap, the drivers requested to stay with the straight up claim and IMCA said yes. Before Tri- City opened. Crystal was getting close to 40 mods a week. Highest weekly average in the country for 2-3 yrs straight. I believe both tracks still get around 30 a week and I96 went back to IMCA this past season and was getting about 20.

[calverton]

Claims causes big problems

[stock car driver]

They come to MI every season. Usually in a truck pulling a small enclosed trailer with a golf cart in it. IMCA stickers on the truck and trailer. They're dressed in IMCA officials clothing and have New York plates. I've seen them working alongside the track IMCA official during pre race and post race inspections.

Drivers wanted the claim. When they went to the engine swap, the drivers requested to stay with the straight up claim and IMCA said yes. Before Tri- City opened. Crystal was getting close to 40 mods a week. Highest weekly average in the country for 2-3 yrs straight. I believe both tracks still get around 30 a week and I96 went back to IMCA this past season and was getting about 20.

Like I said, they don't have national rules like they claim.. I guess its easy to let a area have a voice if there are only 2 or 3 tracks. There are 60 approx. within 5 hours of my house.

[calverton]

if UMP doesn't tech how di that law suit come about , and why did tracks drop Ump last year in the b mods answer they were teching hard and finding thinks that weren't in the rule book

[calverton]

ump track tonight 25 Late Models 31 Modifieds 41 B Mods 15 Street Stocks 12 Pro 4s on hand.

[MI Dirt Fan]

Claims causes big problems

You with multiple user names causes problems

[MI Dirt Fan]

ump track tonight 25 Late Models 31 Modifieds 41 B Mods 15 Street Stocks 12 Pro 4s on hand.

And your point?

[93Nelson]

I race at IMCA tracks. It's really a hit and miss on tech from the track tech guy. There was one year the never pulled the hood off my car. Just walked around and looked at tires and shined a flash light around. Now if a IMCA employed tech guy like Tom or Kirk was there, totally different story. It depends on the track though, some tech more than others.

[hipower17]

i know of a few cars that run ump that are running alum. motors, then there are those that are running cheater tires, some have 10" wide rims, and seen a couple of cars with alum. rims. now this isn't at just one track but i've been to the pits at lots of mod races over the years and its amazing if you pay close attention to the cars what you will see. unless your in nascar tech is only a four letter word out here in the dirt world.

[calverton]

and your point?

no point just the facts and yes they tech