Pierce cars?

[nuff said]

Why wouldn't you want to make as much profit as possible as long as you still put out a quality product ? They are selling them cheaper than other builders are according to above posts.

[Viper91]

I'd say pierce kinda paved the way to today's mods JMO he didn't invent the wheel jus made it a lot better when he started out

[springer]

There good cars for ump you get them in the imca they go no where.

[DirtRacer9x]

There good cars for ump you get them in the imca they go no where.

Exactly! But why?

[zeroracing]

Different tires and motors, mostly though the different tires.

[DirtRacer9x]

So a stickier tire on ump cars is beneficial to metric chassis? A hard tire is better on a Chevelle? Also what are pierce cars running for front ends now? Nova, metric spindle or nova and pinto spindle. What do they set bump steer at and do they have inside bump out more? I see most Chevelle guys buying the 2" or 2.5" spacers for both sides. We don't have our cars like this but curious as to what they run for bump and why? Also any pierce or metric chassis guys here that run IMCA that do well? Or is this strictly USRA and UMP where they use bumps? Trying to find why I see less in IMCA that are competitive.

[dirtmod21]

Truth is you can cheat up a metric chassis to better suit the front end geometry that the builders are after and ump doesn't care...Chevelle geometry is better as an oem configuration versus metric, that is why you see more chevelle frames in imca...

[DirtRacer9x]

So where are they cheated up? I know UMP we have aftermarket lowers but what else is being moved?

[Mosidebite]

I too wanna know where these cars are being cheated up. I have the same schematic drawing as you see with the Chevelle front end that has all the same measurements marked accordingly and have never found a discrepancy.

[JustAddDirt]

it is not in the frames, it is in the bolt on parts were the stuff is being cheated up.
2011-12 Pierce made a RF lower control arm based off a NOVA that was probably 2-3" longer than a Nova. He moved the RF spring bucket out a long way, and there was no weight jack bolt.
UMP has a rule that the weight jack can be 1" off of original centerline. Since there was no jackbolt, I guess there was no rule for that.

Pretty sure he does not built that deal anymore, unless he is putting a weight jack on it.
2012 UMP was checking a lot of lower A arms at bigger shows.
Not sure what he is doing now, just remember that deal.

[anissa5]

Would making it 2 to 3 inches put it past the 78 inches

[blueracer11]

Would making it 2 to 3 inches put it past the 78 inches

It very well may, but you have to tech to find it and UMP doesn't tech. That's what the poster above was talking about. You can "cheat them up" and UMP doesn't do anything about it. I know a particular chassis builder who was "skirting" the rules, and he had one of this cars show up at a show, the UMP tech guys were there, and they questioned his lower A-arms. He went back to his pit and put a "Pierce" sticker on his car and miraculously they passed it. Corruption has no place in racing, but unfortunately it does exist.

[$UMP$]

It very well may, but you have to tech to find it and UMP doesn't tech. That's what the poster above was talking about. You can "cheat them up" and UMP doesn't do anything about it. I know a particular chassis builder who was "skirting" the rules, and he had one of this cars show up at a show, the UMP tech guys were there, and they questioned his lower A-arms. He went back to his pit and put a "Pierce" sticker on his car and miraculously they passed it. Corruption has no place in racing, but unfortunately it does exist.

"Pierce sticker" B.S. made up story!

[HoosierDirtFan]

"Pierce sticker" B.S. made up story!

I doubt that. I've witness sh!t like this myself. You who hides behind a screen name and don't have the balls to sign your signature to any post. UMP is a joke and might as well be in bed with Hoosier Tire.