POWRi and WAR Merge, Bring Wingless Sprint Car Racing To POWRi Country!

[calverton]

You have no interest in open wheel racing and hate it, so stay on the late model board and continue to make yourself look like a raving fool there. Don't interfere with your shear ignorance and needlessly impose your stupidity on those of us who simply want to have an intelligent discussion. Open wheel racing doesn't need or want the likes of you. You seem to fit right in with the late model crowd so go there and stay there. We don't need your ignorance and leave the stuff you hate to those of us that are intelligent enough to enjoy it.

what the he11 does that mean with you attitude that's what's stock cars despise open wheel idiots i use to like open wheel until the snow flakes would walk out when other classes ran

[CIRF]

yep me and another other 20k people at gateway this weekend

Gateway isn't even a minor pimple on the ass of The Chili Bowl, which is one the two biggest and best events run on dirt year in and year out. And that's why you're pissed!! LOL!!

what the he11 does that mean with you attitude that's what's stock cars despise open wheel idiots i use to like open wheel until the snow flakes would walk out when other classes ran

I go to more dirt late model races than you do but I have the open mindedness and ability to enjoy most anything that races on dirt even when it isn't the fastest or most graceful, as in late models and mortified's. The reason people go to the restroom or get food and drink when the open wheel classes aren't racing is most other classes at dirt tracks are slow, boring and cumbersome to some open wheel fans compared to most open wheel classes. However, in my world that doesn't make those non-open wheel classes unentertaining or bad, just different. Can you comprehend that, fool? I doubt it.

Now, go to the late model and mod boards and make a fool of yourself there. No one cares about your phony contempt for open wheel racing and especially your stupidity. You hate it and you know nothing about it, thus you have nothing noteworthy to add here.

Ta-ta!!

[ss12]

I've been to Lincoln several times over the years and really never felt the pro sprinter vibe. Lincoln is in the heart of hard core tunnel vision late model territory. Not at all taking issue with what you say but if what you say is the case, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, Lincoln would be an anomaly, for sure.

I too would like to see WAR at Lincoln. I've attended several POWRi events there and I really like the track. It's just enough longer than Mighty Macon that the wingless sprints would undoubtedly be a great show at Lincoln.

CIRF believe me the actual resident that live in Lincoln are sprint car fans. Dean Shirley is from the ares and he had a big following in Lincoln. Most nights you can find Dean in the stands. Did the WAR race in Lincoln Last year(2016)?

[CIRF]

CIRF believe me the actual resident that live in Lincoln are sprint car fans. Dean Shirley is from the ares and he had a big following in Lincoln. Most nights you can find Dean in the stands. Did the WAR race in Lincoln Last year(2016)?

I completely believe you ss. It's just that I find it interesting that the love for sprint car racing is a top priority in an area that is so overwhelmingly dominated by dirt late models, mortified's and street stocks.

It would be nice if Lincoln could get the POWRi National Midgets and the WAR sprint cars scheduled for the same night like Fairbury did in 2017.

I met Dean Shirley along with Donnie Beechler for the first time back in 2012 at the Springfield Speedway reunion that was held in the Illinois Building at the Illinois State Fairgrounds. That was a cool deal, for sure. I watched Dean race back in the days when he ran Fairbury when FALS was still racing the rail cars/supermodifieds/sprint cars. I was very young at that time but I remember those days very well.

[ss12]

CIRf here is a site that you might of already seen.

http://springfieldsspeedway.webs.com

[CIRF]

CIRf here is a site that you might of already seen.
http://springfieldsspeedway.webs.com

Thanks ss!! I've seen this site but it's been quite awhile ago and lots has been added since I last looked at it.

[ss12]

Me and kidrock spent a lot of Sundays at that track. Must of the stock cars with the # 3((not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) Taylor and Jay Akers) were my dad and his friends(Renfro's) car. Some of the pictures were supplied by Terry Renfro. The orange and white coupe #64 is Terry's car which he still has today.

[CIRF]

Me and kidrock spent a lot of Sundays at that track. Must of the stock cars with the # 3((not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) Taylor and Jay Akers) were my dad and his friends(Renfro's) car. Some of the pictures were supplied by Terry Renfro. The orange and white coupe #64 is Terry's car which he still has today.

That's some cool stuff, ss. Sounds like you and your family have an extensive history at Shaheen's.

Little Springfield was just a little bit before my time. I was in school up until a few years before it closed down and Joe passed. At that time I was a bit more into drag racing. However, I remember going there with my Dad and a good friend of his and his friends' son 3, maybe 4 times. We went down to see wingless sprint car specials. A lot of the drivers who ran at Fairbury regularly also raced at Springfield. Larry & Steve Cannon, Bubby Jones, Hersh Jenkins, Jerry Camfield, Dean Shirley and Bobby Carrigan all were at Fairbury every Saturday night when I was a small child and that's who we went to Little Springfield to see in those days.

I remember going to the Torsion Bar off of turn 1 after a rain-out one time. All those guys I mention above were there and I think I pestered every one of those drivers to some degree!! LOL!! They're trying to have a beer or two and and I'm running around the place like a hyperactive squirrel asking for autographs.

Really glad I got to go to Little Springfield at least a couple times!!

[ss12]

Since you went to Fairbury a lot did you ever see the famous coupe 8- ball race up there? The car was from Lincoln and owned by the Anderson's. One of the stories I have always been told was it won 26 features in a row and lost but won the next 27 features. The cars was restored by the original(Bob Anderson) owner several years ago. Bob died a couple years ago and now his son Mark has it. I believe he live in Streator and that's were the car is.

[CIRF]

Since you went to Fairbury a lot did you ever see the famous coupe 8- ball race up there? The car was from Lincoln and owned by the Anderson's. One of the stories I have always been told was it won 26 features in a row and lost but won the next 27 features. The cars was restored by the original(Bob Anderson) owner several years ago. Bob died a couple years ago and now his son Mark has it. I believe he live in Streator and that's were the car is.

Yessir, I know 8 Ball very well. It is a 39 Ford Coupe, all white with a black 8 ball (like the billiards 8 ball) on the side. When I saw 8 Ball race it was driven by Bugs Anderson from Lincoln. I spoke at length with Bugs' brothers at The Springfield Mile at an old timers gathering prior to the Tony Bettenhausen Memorial 100 about 10 years ago. The car did in fact win a bunch of features. I cannot confirm whether or not 8 Ball won 26 in a row. What I do know is that Bugsy would set fast time at Fairbury and as a result of a full invert he'd start the feature dead last. Many times Bugsy would be leading in less than 10 laps. 8 Ball was one bad ass racecar for it's day. One of the Anderson brothers told me that Lloyd Caldwell won a bunch of races driving 8 Ball, as well.

Sadly, Bugs Anderson died of natural causes at the age of 34 and the Anderson family pretty much got out of the racing business. Bugs and his brothers had their sights set on going South and doing some NASCAR racing if Bugsy had lived. I have a feeling Bugs Anderson would have left his mark on NASCAR racing had he lived, but we'll never know for sure.

[ss12]

Yessir, I know 8 Ball very well. It is a 39 Ford Coupe, all white with a black 8 ball (like the billiards 8 ball) on the side. When I saw 8 Ball race it was driven by Bugs Anderson from Lincoln. I spoke at length with Bugs' brothers at The Springfield Mile at an old timers gathering prior to the Tony Bettenhausen Memorial 100 about 10 years ago. The car did in fact win a bunch of features. I cannot confirm whether or not 8 Ball won 26 in a row. What I do know is that Bugsy would set fast time at Fairbury and as a result of a full invert he'd start the feature dead last. Many times Bugsy would be leading in less than 10 laps. 8 Ball was one bad ass racecar for it's day. One of the Anderson brothers told me that Lloyd Caldwell won a bunch of races driving 8 Ball, as well.

Sadly, Bugs Anderson died of natural causes at the age of 34 and the Anderson family pretty much got out of the racing business. Bugs and his brothers had their sights set on going South and doing some NASCAR racing if Bugsy had lived. I have a feeling Bugs Anderson would have left his mark on NASCAR racing had he lived, but we'll never know for sure.

I live near the cemetery were Bugs is buried. His tombstone has the 8-ball etched on it. Our family and the Anderson's have been friends for a long time.

Terry Renfro ended up with 8-ball and it sit in Middletown for many years near a barn. The person who owned the land was cleaning up the property and wanted Terry to do something with the car. Terry waited and waited so the owner called a towing company to come and get the car. Luckily the man that went to pick up the car new the history of the car and went asked Bob Anderson(Bugs brother) if he wanted the car back. Bob took the car back and restored it back like it was when they had it. If we ever meet in Lincoln I will take you by my dad's house and show you the model he made of the 8-ball.

[CIRF]

I live near the cemetery were Bugs is buried. His tombstone has the 8-ball etched on it. Our family and the Anderson's have been friends for a long time.

Terry Renfro ended up with 8-ball and it sit in Middletown for many years near a barn. The person who owned the land was cleaning up the property and wanted Terry to do something with the car. Terry waited and waited so the owner called a towing company to come and get the car. Luckily the man that went to pick up the car new the history of the car and went asked Bob Anderson(Bugs brother) if he wanted the car back. Bob took the car back and restored it back like it was when they had it. If we ever meet in Lincoln I will take you by my dad's house and show you the model he made of the 8-ball.

That's some GREAT stuff, ss!!

The Anderson brother that I spoke to had an engineering degree and spoke like a highly educated fellow. I asked him if the flathead engine in 8 Ball now was the same one as was in it when Bugs was winning all of those races back in the day. He said it wasn't, that it was actually a flathead out of a "40 Ford. Mr. Anderson went on to say that the flathead that powered 8 Ball to all those feature wins could be safely turned to 6500 RPM on a regular basis. I was stunned. I had never, ever heard of a flat head in basically stock form turning that high of RPM. He also said that at a place like Fairbury you could turn loose of the steering wheel getting into the corners at race speeds and ol' 8 Ball would go right around the corners perfectly without touching the steering wheel. In spite of Mr. Anderson's engineering expertise he really couldn't explain what it was about 8 Ball that made it so fast in regards to chassis geometry. Just one of those deals where everything was perfect basically by accident.

As you can tell I was mesmerized by the history and legend of ol' 8 Ball coming from basically the horses mouth!! LOL!!

ss, I'd look forward to seeing a model of ol' 8 ball. I hope we can make that happen some time!

[kidrock]

I've been to Lincoln several times over the years and really never felt the pro sprinter vibe. Lincoln is in the heart of hard core tunnel vision late model territory. Not at all taking issue with what you say but if what you say is the case, and I have no reason to believe otherwise, Lincoln would be an anomaly, for sure.

I too would like to see WAR at Lincoln. I've attended several POWRi events there and I really like the track. It's just enough longer than Mighty Macon that the wingless sprints would undoubtedly be a great show at Lincoln.

ss12 is correct Lincoln is more of a sprint car town then late models that's for sure. I think if they had more sprint car shows you would see what he means. You can't have one or 2 a year and expect people are going to support it but, if you have them on a regular basis I believe you would see the support.


ss12 needs to hook you up with Terry and ss12 dad and you guys could talk for hours about old racing stories

[ss12]

Bob Anderson told me that they had the frame and all of the suspension points drawn out on their drive way. Bob was quite the guy. Bob has taken a few cars completely apart and took them down his basement and restored them down there. Then took them apart and re assembled in his one car garage. He did eventually build a 2 car garage.

Bob also enjoyed racing his modified T's that he and his sons raced up the hill in Newport, In.

[ss12]

ss12 is correct Lincoln is more of a sprint car town then late models that's for sure. I think if they had more sprint car shows you would see what he means. You can't have one or 2 a year and expect people are going to support it but, if you have them on a regular basis I believe you would see the support.


ss12 needs to hook you up with Terry and ss12 dad and you guys could talk for hours about old racing stories

They would have a great conversation about racing. It would be fun to sit back and just listen. Kidrock I think CIRF would have a good laugh about our fist 2 months with the SS. That was a hell of learning experience. One experience that I will not forget.