Larson Makes History........Again

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  • CIRF
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 8122

    #1

    Larson Makes History........Again

    Kyle Larson just became the first driver in the 50 year history of the ASCoC to win 7, count 'em, 7 A-main's in a row! The incredible thing is Kyle isn't just winning, he's wearin' all their asses OUT!

    We're seeing a talent that spans multi generations at work and history is made nearly every time Larson pulls on a racetrack in any type car.

    Rumble Yung Money Rumble!!
  • Late_Model_Mark
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 2321

    #2
    Guy is unreal, could he approach Wolfgang's 52 win season in the Weikert car in 85, me thinks anything possible with this level of talent. How many wins now, 26, 28 or so?



    LMM

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    • Hoosier
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1885

      #3
      Tonite, at Huset's in SD, the streak ended when Larson crashed in a heat race.

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      • CIRF
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2007
        • 8122

        #4
        Originally posted by Late_Model_Mark View Post
        Guy is unreal, could he approach Wolfgang's 52 win season in the Weikert car in 85, me thinks anything possible with this level of talent. How many wins now, 26, 28 or so?



        LMM
        I'm not sure how many total wins Larson has at this time but his winning percentage is incredible. Also, taking nothing away from Wolfy but Larson has won multiple races driving a midget this year. I know Wolfy won a hand full of midget races throughout his career but not sure if that happened during the 50+ win season. It may have.

        From a selfish personal standpoint I would love to see is Larson to get a decent USAC Silver Crown ride and win another one or two on a dirt mile. I watched him spank the field at Du Quoin in the Ted Horn Memorial 100 back in September of 2011 driving Keith Kunz Silver Crown car. It looks bleak for either of the Silver Crown dirt mile races to happen in Illinois this year and besides that it may be tough to convince Kyle to leave the winger stuff and do a one off Crown race or two.

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        • Late_Model_Mark
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 2321

          #5
          As of a couple of weeks ago he had 26. This is some rare stuff.


          LMM

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          • CIRF
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2007
            • 8122

            #6
            Originally posted by Late_Model_Mark View Post
            As of a couple of weeks ago he had 26. This is some rare stuff.


            LMM
            Without looking it up I believe he's at 30 or 31 at this point. I also can't remember his winning percentage on dirt but it's way up there.

            I've watched Larson since 2010 but it was 2011 when everyone REALLY sat up and took notice. He won the Belleville Midget Nationals, the Ted Horn Memorial and won all 3 (Silver Crown, sprint car & midget) USAC National divisions at Eldora. The real impressive thing about the Belleville win and the 3 wins at Eldora was that he'd never laid eyes on either of those tracks prior to winning on them.

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            • Rajflyboy
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2020
              • 5907

              #7
              My only question is this: How good is the overall talent in sprint car racing outside of Shatz right now? What competition is Larson facing each night?

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              • CIRF
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 8122

                #8
                Well, I'm a self appointed, self anointed bleacher jockey so my opinion is worth exactly what I've been paid for it on the open market, which is to say zilch.

                With that said I believe that the talent from top to bottom in winged sprint cars is about as good as it's ever been. Admittedly, I don't follow winged sprint cars as much as I do the wingless cars but I've been paying more attention recently due to Larson's domination. It's a case where back in the Kinser, Wolfgang, Swindell era those guys were the dominant drivers with Brad Doty, Bobby Davis Jr. and a few others a tick or two below those guys. Today you have Schatzy and now Larson at the top but the other guys are very evenly matched back through about 12th to 14th on any given night. All of those guys seem to perform at a high level night after night. I might be way off base but that's how it appears to me.

                But, when we talk the current midget division drivers we're talking about a group of guys that are as good top to bottom as any group I've ever seen. Better than most era's. Larson dominates in those cars, as well. And, if he was to jump in a wingless sprinter or a Crown car I firmly believe he'd be dominant in those cars as well and those divisions are full of highly talented drivers, too. Kody Swanson is more dominant in a modern Silver Crown car on the dirt miles and on the pavement than anyone ever has been and that includes Jack Hewitt.
                Last edited by CIRF; 08-12-2020, 11:38 AM.

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                • Rajflyboy
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2020
                  • 5907

                  #9
                  Thanks CIRF. I have no idea but when I go I’m just not impressed like I once was. I guess I’m more of a late model fan now.

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                  • CIRF
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 8122

                    #10
                    Give the USAC National Midgets and USAC National Sprint Cars and the USAC Silver Crown divisions a look see. Trust me on this one, the talent level is as good as I ever remember it in all three divisions. A huge crop of very good young drivers in the midget division like Chris Windom, Tyler Courtney, Justin Grant, Brady Bacon, Buddy Kofoid, Cannon McIntosh, Thomas Meseraull, Tanner Carrick, Tanner Thorson, Kevin Thomas, Shane Golobic, C.J. Leary, Dave Darland, Logan Seavey. Almost all of those guys race the sprint cars regularly along with Robert Ballou and Brady Short. And, in the mix when they aren't racing with the WoO's or NASCAR you have guys like Rico Abreu, Ricky Stenhouse Jr., Darrin Pitman, Larson, Bell and a few others that I'm forgetting driving the midgets.

                    Most of the USAC regulars will be driving the Silver Crown cars along with SC regulars Kody Swanson and Shane Co ckrum.

                    I'd be surprised if you weren't highly entertained and impressed with any of the 3 USAC divisions.

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                    • Rajflyboy
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2020
                      • 5907

                      #11
                      Except I live in the Carolinas. I’d have to travel to see most of the USAC stuff. If I get a chance I will certainly check this stuff out. Thanks. 👍

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                      • CIRF
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 8122

                        #12
                        Buy Floracing and you get every race in all 3 divisions, plus you get all the west coast USAC/CRA events. In addition to all the USAC racing you get everything from Eldora and much more.

                        Give it a look see, Raj. I think you'll be entertained.

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                        • Rajflyboy
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2020
                          • 5907

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CIRF View Post
                          Buy Floracing and you get every race in all 3 divisions, plus you get all the west coast USAC/CRA events. In addition to all the USAC racing you get everything from Eldora and much more.Give it a look see, Raj. I think you'll be entertained.
                          Flo Racing does look good

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                          • Late_Model_Mark
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 2321

                            #14
                            Mr. Cirf

                            I really must disagree with you on 1 particular front, your assessment that the current crop of USAC Midget drivers is as stout and diverse as any, of course that is your view, I respect that. However I firmly don't agree with that at all. My first Midget show was at of course was at Ascot. The crop of 60's talent, 70's talent, 80's talent in my view was far, far superior in over all talent. From the various disciplines, tracks, and technology of the day and what the drivers had to work with. From Rich Vogler to Stan Fox to Sleepy Tripp, the talent, racing, and driver moxie was unsurpassed.

                            Pick any Turkey Night at Ascot would solidify my argument.

                            As far as the overall winged talent today versus the time I will say was epic, mid-eighties, there just won't in my view be the talent pool that had Wolfgang, Mark and Steve Kinser, Sammy, Doty, Shuman, Allen, Stevie Smith, Blaney, Haudensheild, Kaeding, and Jimmy Sills, just my view.

                            Sure is good conversation though.



                            LMM

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                            • Rajflyboy
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2020
                              • 5907

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Late_Model_Mark View Post
                              Mr. Cirf I really must disagree with you on 1 particular front, your assessment that the current crop of USAC Midget drivers is as stout and diverse as any, of course that is your view, I respect that. However I firmly don't agree with that at all. My first Midget show was at of course was at Ascot. The crop of 60's talent, 70's talent, 80's talent in my view was far, far superior in over all talent. From the various disciplines, tracks, and technology of the day and what the drivers had to work with. From Rich Vogler to Stan Fox to Sleepy Tripp, the talent, racing, and driver moxie was unsurpassed. Pick any Turkey Night at Ascot would solidify my argument. As far as the overall winged talent today versus the time I will say was epic, mid-eighties, there just won't in my view be the talent pool that had Wolfgang, Mark and Steve Kinser, Sammy, Doty, Shuman, Allen, Stevie Smith, Blaney, Haudensheild, Kaeding, and Jimmy Sills, just my view.Sure is good conversation though.LMM
                              I was used to seeing those guys run Lernerville speedway back then. It’s still hard to move on from that group of drivers. I just get can’t excited at a winged sprint car race now.

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