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  • ace1
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 205

    #1

    LR Brake Floater?

    08 Mastersbilt, 602. The car has a LR brake floater. I am thinking of locking it. What are advantages of it. I see it keeping the car up on the bars when braking. Are they ran much or driver preference. I haven't driven this car yet to know.
  • wastingmoney
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2015
    • 345

    #2
    up to the driver IMO. Thers more ways to keep a car up on the bars than a brake floater

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    • ace1
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 205

      #3
      RR also has option for on bird cage or clamped to axle. I think I am going clamped both sides.

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      • fastford
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 4059

        #4
        we ran a lf rear floater for years , but after the newer trend of the soft rt frt and the bump or 2 stage stuff came out , we did not need it any more , if your chassis is not designed to run this set up , i would use it , it will help your car turn tremendously , the one we ran came from port city racing and was a bearing unit that jimmy owens helped them design , you also will need the most aggressive brake pad on lf rear you can get , we ran the brake bar at about the same angle as the upper 4 bar , just be sure it cant cam over , after we went to the soft rt front , we did not need it to promote rear steer , but im always trying stuff , so one night i decided to try it with the new set up and it did not work at all , it felt like it would try to bounce the whole car of the ground , its easy to switch back and forth so i would defiantly try it , especially with a crate engine....JMO.....

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        • ace1
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2007
          • 205

          #5
          This car has the large hole brackets and I wasn't sure if I would like not having one hole for bar adjustment. I may leave everything set up so I can unlock it and try it. It is a bearing type floater.

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          • MasterSbilt_Racer
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 14304

            #6
            Originally posted by ace1 View Post
            This car has the large hole brackets and I wasn't sure if I would like not having one hole for bar adjustment. I may leave everything set up so I can unlock it and try it. It is a bearing type floater.
            Once you get it in the correct hole, it isn't going to move anyway.
            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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            • ace1
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2007
              • 205

              #7
              Thanks. I think I will leave it hooked up and try it. I don't know why I thought I was loosing one of the adjustment holes on the frame.

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              • fastford
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 4059

                #8
                just remember what i said about the aggressive pad , that is very important and who ever was running it might not have known that ....

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                • ace1
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 205

                  #9
                  I’m not sure what is on it but the left look good. The right were wore out.

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                  • Jking24
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 1512

                    #10
                    Be careful some of the " anti rumley " rule changes have outlawed brake floaters. We've never ran them so i can't comment otherwise

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14304

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Jking24 View Post
                      Be careful some of the " anti rumley " rule changes have outlawed brake floaters. We've never ran them so i can't comment otherwise
                      I haven't run one since then. Not sure if you could argue it's not a part of the suspension, but an extra rod is probably gonna cause an argument at best.
                      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                      • ace1
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 205

                        #12
                        I won't have to worry about that where I'm at. I could probably run one and get away with it. Once I find the position of the floater that works best, it will stay at that position when making bar changes, correct? I shouldn't move it with the top bar?

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                        • fastford
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4059

                          #13
                          the last time we ran it , we were one hole up from the upper 4 bar , and about 1/2 inch longer than that bar , but you have to use some trial and era here because there is difference in chassis , but thats where i would start , one other thing to consider is dynamic load placed on the lft rear tire , this helps the car turn in easier so sometimes you dont need as much dynamic rear steer generated by the 4 bars , and not as much static bite , also , i kind of looked at it like a tractor with a left and right brake pedal , the static load placed on the left rear tire will plant that tire and help pull the front around , at any rate , its still a balancing act but on the older set ups , when you find that sweet spot , it is fast........

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                          • ace1
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 205

                            #14
                            Thanks for the tips and suggestions. I will give it a go, play around with it some and see what happens. I'm getting out of a 04 GRT and into the 08 Mastersbilt. Should I expect a big difference in the cars.

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14304

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ace1 View Post
                              I won't have to worry about that where I'm at. I could probably run one and get away with it. Once I find the position of the floater that works best, it will stay at that position when making bar changes, correct? I shouldn't move it with the top bar?
                              What I was trying to say before, is it is very rare to make bar changes period these days. Especially lr upper on frame.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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