604 carb issue???

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  • fast14
    Member
    • May 2008
    • 62

    #1

    604 carb issue???

    New to crate racing and trying to pinpoint a problem and find a solution. Running a quickfuel 750cfm carburetor converted for e-85 on gm604. On starts and restarts when I give it serious fuel in falls flat on its face for a second or so. Also when riding around on cautions the car sorta "chugs" or surges. Once we get up to speed on a fast track its okay, but it kills me on a stop and go track. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone!
  • RacerX10
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 571

    #2
    LOL mine's doing the exact same thing. See adjacent thread with a few replies

    I bet you are over-jetted too. (or will be told you need a carb specific for crate racing)

    If you already have a carb specific for crate racing, you should probably call whoever built it.

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    • Egoracing
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 4852

      #3
      Yup! Check your jets.

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      • Matt49
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 3123

        #4
        If you're willing to do some testing and tuning, you can probably fix it without replacing the carb.
        Off-idle stumbles are usually not at all related to jetting. Usually the problem is in the accelerator pump system. Based on your description of "starving and surging" it sounds like you are all out of fuel before you ever really get on the throttle on your starts/restarts. That being said, the accelerator pump nozzle is probably too big.
        The AMOUNT of fuel delivered by the accelerator pump is determined by the size of the pump which you usually won't have to mess with. The timing of when and how fast the fuel is delivered is determined by the size of the nozzle, the cam, and the cam positioning.
        Check the little screw that holds the cam and see what position it is in, if it is in position 1, try moving it back to position 2. This will delay the full delivery of the fuel from the accelerator pump. When you move from position 1 to position 2, you put the screw through the corresponding hole on both the arm and the lever. They are both marked.
        You could also try a smaller nozzle. The size is stamped on the nozzle. Too big and you're going to dump all of your fuel too early and it will create a dead spot during off-idle acceleration. It sounds like that is what you've got. A smaller nozzle will stretch out the amount of time that it takes to deliver the pump squirt which might fill in your dead spot.
        I would try the cam positioning first and if that helps, then try a smaller nozzle on the primary pump nozzle.

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        • Lazer-10
          Junior Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 11

          #5
          Check Plugs

          Check your plugs if they look OK then go 2 sizes smaller in Primary and 1 or 2 sizes larger in secondary. Also put a slight delay in your secondary to start opening. Had this problem done this and it was OK after that.
          Lazer-10

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          • 50j
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 1047

            #6
            Call your carb builder. Nobody on this forum or any other knows how it's set up and where it needs to be jetted.

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            • atilgans1
              Junior Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 7

              #7
              nice sharing. success in new jobs.
              promosyon

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              • atilgans
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 7

                #8
                Thank you for sharing. success in your studies.
                promosyon ürünleri

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                • brad hibbard
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 974

                  #9
                  Qft 750

                  I would first start by making sure you actually have a 750 cfm carb

                  a 750 by industry standard has a 1.375 venturi size

                  there are 2 problems if your carb is bigger than a 750

                  1st) a crate engine does not run enough RPM nor move enough air to justify a carb larger than a 750----the booster signal will be weak with the large venturi and result in flat spots and "falls flat on its face"

                  2nd) some sanctioning bodies do not allow a carb larger than a 750
                  FASTRAK is one of those sanctions


                  I suggest contacting Zach Baker at Quick fuel and he will gladly help you through your dilema.

                  Zach Baker 270-739-0900 ext223
                  zach@quickfueltechnology.com

                  Brad Hibbard
                  Race-1 offers competitive pricing on Chevrolet Performance 602, 604 & 525 sealed circle track racing engines. Race-1 specializes in the GM CTC engines and we offer a wide variety of services specific to the 602 & 604 crate engines. Your source for Stealth Racing Carburetors! Learn from Brad's expertise in teaching, too!

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