Starter for 602/604

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  • blackdragster
    Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 55

    #16
    get one for a 1998 full size chevy/gmc pick up it will be a lighter and smaller "mini starter"

    this is a great starter, much better than those little tilton type. ran 1 4 3 years on my slm way back when...

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    • blackdragster
      Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 55

      #17
      also for the bert bell housing u can try this.

      Alright, here's the deal. A 1987 Toyota pickup starter for the 22R engine @ Autozone Auto Parts part #16674X for $49.99 with one-year warranty. Don't spring the extra $20 bucks for the lifetime warranty starter because your going to modify it and the warranty will be void anyway.

      should be able to do it in 35-40 minutes max.

      1. Remove starter head, be careful because there's a middle gear that has a shaft through it that comes out when you remove the head and the gear has roller bearings in it that could fall out. But if they do they are simple to put back in the bottom of the gear.
      2. Remove the gear drive from the starter head.
      3. Disassemble the gear drive by pushing the shaft up and the gear down to expose the lock ring. Remove the lock ring so you can remove the gear, now remove the small spring, large spring and the washer that has inner grooves and trash them. You'll also leave off the lock ring and ring that was at the end of the gear. Re-assemble the gear drive and get ready to do some welding. Put the gear flush with the end of the shaft and weld it there. You will need to leave the long spring that sticks up out of the starter when the gear drive is removed. The two springs to leave out are IN the gear drive.
      4. You now need to get ready to cut on the starter head. There are two "rings" where the starter shaft comes through the head. One is the large one that lines the starter up, the other is smaller right around the hole where the gear comes through. You need to cut the inner/small ring so it's level with the outer ring if you were to lay a straight edge across them.
      5. Re-assemble the starter gear drive and starter head onto the starter and tighten bolts.
      6. Now remove the cover on the other end of the starter that has 3 small screws holding it on. Take the centerpiece out and put some silicone on the contact that has one small wire to help prevent it from breaking and re-assemble that end. Put your jumper wire on and your ready.

      ps make sure the starter gear has a back stop made on the gear. some dont they are open .. if it dont have the back stop it will not engage the bert starter gear to the engine flywheel

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      • RacerX10
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 571

        #18
        Originally posted by blackdragster View Post
        also for the bert bell housing u can try this
        Awesome post .. I love stuff like this

        If I do it I'll try and get some pictures maybe we can put up a page somewhere with instructions.

        I think I picked up one of those starters about 10 years ago but didn't know about the modifications it needed and never tried to get it working.

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        • RacerX10
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 571

          #19
          Here is a link to the starter if anyone is interested :

          http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...36420_48987_0_

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          • Egoracing
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 4852

            #20
            The import unit sells for $70 here, put in your zip and lets see how much the price changes!
            The smaller GM unit is $150 locally, in FLA when I bought mine it was almost $200 now they are showing there for $170.

            http://www.autozone.com/autozone/par...52107_43652_0_

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            • powerslide
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 2696

              #21
              starter on my mod went out and was searching for the post on how to make your own reverse mount starter out of the toyota starter thought i would bump it back up

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              • Chris Steele
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1123

                #22
                ...if you do get a starter that don't have the 'backstop' or flatback on it, just simply weld a large thick flat washer on it.
                www.joegibbsracingoil.com

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                • powerslide
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 2696

                  #23
                  didnt you start a thread for this chris? i couldnt find it and thats the one i was really looking for thought it was more detailed

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                  • Chris Steele
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 1123

                    #24
                    Originally posted by powerslide View Post
                    didnt you start a thread for this chris? i couldnt find it and thats the one i was really looking for thought it was more detailed
                    Yes, I posted those exact instructions a couple years ago.
                    www.joegibbsracingoil.com

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                    • powerslide
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 2696

                      #25
                      got this done and it was very simple. Motor is at the builders being looked at will report back how it whirls it over when i get it back.

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                      • Chris Steele
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 1123

                        #26
                        An old thread I thought I'd bring back to the top.....you'll find detailed instructions on here that I passed around many years ago on how to use a Toyota starter on your reverse mount bellhousing. It's simple and VERY affordable so you can buy a brand new spare and keep in your race hauler.
                        www.joegibbsracingoil.com

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                        • brad hibbard
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 974

                          #27
                          The man of steel

                          How are you Chris?
                          I thought I might see you in Gatlinburg----whoop whoop---LOL

                          I forgot all about that starter tip ----I am gonna have to revisit the info

                          thanks for posting

                          Brad
                          Race-1 offers competitive pricing on Chevrolet Performance 602, 604 & 525 sealed circle track racing engines. Race-1 specializes in the GM CTC engines and we offer a wide variety of services specific to the 602 & 604 crate engines. Your source for Stealth Racing Carburetors! Learn from Brad's expertise in teaching, too!

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                          • Chris Steele
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 1123

                            #28
                            Hey Brad I'm doing good and hope you are too. I didn't race any Fastrak stuff this year but would have loved to been in Gatlinburg just for the whoop whooping lol. Maybe in the next couple of years I'll get back on the tour with some better equipment and have a shot at winning a points championship. We done pretty dam n good in 2016 finishing 2nd in the Fastrak MOV touring points and 3rd in the Fastrak Southeast touring points considering we were running a 2004 Rocket
                            Last edited by Chris Steele; 02-01-2018, 09:15 AM.
                            www.joegibbsracingoil.com

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