HP Influenced by Stagger & Tire Pressure

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  • dynoman14
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 1336

    #16
    Not saying I know everything or even a lot, just talking about the stuff I have done for myself and other folks over the past 35 years of racing. You can chose to do with it whatever...if you don't like it change the channel. I appreciate the couple hundred loyal 4m customers that have chosen to run my stuff over the past 5 years and even if they chose to keep on the down-lo I still like all the "Winners Circle" pics they send me on a weekly basis.

    C-10 more power to you, we were running them in Super and Late Model stock at Lanier and in SAS Supers & NASCAR All-Pro in the early 90's when they were the MacDaddy SLM classes for Pavement. You might want to check where Pro and Carerra started business... just a couple miles up the road. When I went to work as Tech Director at Dixie Speedway in the later 90's I introduced a couple folks to the idea and it worked pretty good for them.

    MWR was caught using a form of paste in the intake manifold and air cleaner that closely resembles sterno, but with a more oxygenated mix of chemicals. Call a couple fuel companies if you want to find it an buy it for your own cars. If not I can sell you my version of it, it is pretty much non-detectable if applied properly.

    The coating I am referring to is not something that you just wipe on, it is similar to an epoxy but has electrical conductivity and reacts with long chain hydrocarbons and iso-octane molecules. It has been used in other industries as a catalyst for reactions requiring high pressure containment and minimal mechanical mixing due to high volatility. It is also used in afterburners on jet engines to complete the combustion of unburned fuel being emitted in the afterburn process.

    The Inner Liner deal I used then still works. I did use the phrase twice in the same sentence without catching it. Hope the semantics did not confuse you too badly. I guess I should have worked harder in my writing classes. We only used one inner liner and 2 valve stems. I also perfected using modified valve stems as bleeders and still use them today on dirt and pavement. When I raced in ARCA in 99-02 we mounted our own tires if we wanted to. I think the end of 02 is when ARCA started requiring rental wheels and tires impounded by Hoosier. It certainly was not because we were running 13# double walled cro-mo wheels, LW inner liners turned on a tire lathe, camber cut tires and schrader valves that worked like bleeders....

    If making fun of an idea or comment is your way of being intelligent more power to you, you are definitely showing what you really are.

    As far as stock trading goes, if you morons would have bought shares of Bank of America last year when I was first discussing it you would have made 250% as it hit $12 last week. I still trade for 2 hours a day MWF on a 5c swing and make $500 a trade on 10,000 share lots. It ain't much but when you do it 10 times a morning it is enough to cover my nut anyway.

    BTW, Just purchased 2 Dirt cars over the weekend and I'll post you where to follow progress if you want to. New web format coming for 2013 if I can get it all together.

    As far as ARCA races went my rental drivers qualified in on time for every race I ever attended and only use on provisional for a rain race for a rookie rental driver. Never won one, athough I did have a rental car win one, and finished top 5 a couple times. Every engine I ever rented also made the shows on time and I was blessed enough to never have an engine failure in over 10,000 laps and 30+ races.

    As for you tire experts, traction in dirt cars is usually governed by slip ratio and side bite. When I am discussing cf it is the "coefficient of friction" of the rolling tire. I did not say anything about traction. If you can minimize the cf without negative effects on your tire contact patch than you will roll faster...it is not rocket science. We tested at a dirt track a couple months ago with about 5 sets of tires with incremental differences in roll-out and the less stagger used generated faster lap times. More air pressure did the same thing until it caused the tires to lose traction. Left sides took way more pressure than I would have thought...

    I have had a lot of inquiries about when we will be opening up the shop to the public for the retail New and Used Parts BIZ and well we are already doing it. We should be getting new and used parts in every day as well as consignment cars. The 15,000SqFt shop is filling up pretty quick. We have already sold a couple hundred sheets of 4x10 for intro price of $50 sheet. New batch will be $60 sheet so we can pay the electic bill and the pretty ladies in the office. We are pretty much "by appointment" as we have been super busy testing the 2 New Port City cars to get ready for Lanier in a couple weeks. The second Late Model will be a rental car and has already run below the Pole Q speeds at AndersonSC in practice on scuffs with a couple rookie dirt drivers.

    Man do dirt drivers know how to wheel a pavement car.

    The second of the 2 dirt cars is a BWRC LW car designed for crate and hope to get it rented out for some big races real soon.

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    • dynoman14
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 1336

      #17
      BTW, for those of you that can read, you might gain some knowledge from one of the masters in Wheel building, you can google Jobst Brandt if you want to find his books or other info.

      For a more current application to motorsport you might want to investigate an article based on FARInfraRed tire treatments called "DarkTechnologies" , it is just from a couple of them stupid F-1 guys so it is prolly BS too.

      I have already built a small system for Kart tires and they are testing almost 1 sec faster per lap than professionally treated tires costing $600 set. Working on a system for my dirt and pavement tires for this year. Don't worry I won't be trying to sell it to anybody in the near future.

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      • Egoracing
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 4852

        #18
        Originally posted by dynoman14 View Post
        At Daytona and Talladega we had a couple really goo tricks for running +5-10psi and still passing tech. Learning how to use inner liners to your inner liners to your advantage you can pick up 1/2 second a lap in Qualifying.
        There was no typo, You CLEARLY put "inner liners to your inner liners" Again, busted in a lie and change your story.
        And if you were so smart you would know that variable rate springs only work if they are touching. Putting a spring in the drivers seat will not increase the wheel rate.

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        • TeamGRT12x
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 911

          #19
          Originally posted by stock car driver
          Post some pics of these cars, the stacker and the equipment.

          I would be interested in renting a ride for the upcoming 8 days race swing for supers thats coming up at New Smyrna. If your team has enough help and spares to keep the port city rental car going that many days in a row?
          I may be going down to Speedweeks. I think this is a great idea. Jeff's won many asphalt races, so he's probably better than your "dirt drivers".
          Curious that we spend more time congratulating people who have succeeded than encouraging people who have not.

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          • Matt49
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 3123

            #20
            What's the address of this 15,000 square foot facility?
            A couple of weeks ago on another thread you said it would be open to walk-in business in a couple of weeks. Now it is "by appointment only". Funny how your stories always change so that nobody can keep track of what you are really working on.
            Does this facility actually exist anywhere but in your mind?

            "Couple hundred loyal 4m customer"???
            Where are they to back your claims besides a brand new screen name that when I asked them where they raced that couldn't tell me?

            I seem to recall Hendrens saying that he would give a pretty good some of money to anybody that could provide any of your parts so that he could run them on a dyno, apples for apples, against other stuff. $1000 if I recall correctly. NOBODY ever took him up on it. With a couple hundred 4m users using your stuff you would think 1 of them would be interested in a thousand dollars in exchange for sending off one of your parts.
            $1000 buys a lot of oil filters, treated valve springs, headers, oil, etc. but nobody would send him a single thing to be independently tested to validate a single one of your ridiculous claims.

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            • Egoracing
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 4852

              #21
              Originally posted by stock car driver
              Mark has bid a cent on my vortec bowties on ebay, lol.. Hes got over 700 feedbacks for purchases on ebay, maybe thats what he does when he claims to be trading one stock every single day...
              I had someone that sold 10 sets of used crate springs on E-bay and they sold. The purchaser was Mark. At that time he was on here saying he "found" 10 new sets of the good springs and was going to treat them that week. The person contacted me to let me know that they were his. Mark contacted them and said he would buy any used sets that they had just contact him about them rather than going on E-bay. This was only weeks after arguing with Steve Hendren that there was no difference between the old and new springs.

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              • swingarm4life
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 155

                #22
                Ego, Stock Car, Matt49, and everyone else that bashes Mark on here, not trying to start an argument on here but you guys are really starting to stink up the place. Ive always read your posts and actually have learned some things, but yall are really starting to discredit yourselves. And before you start, no I do not use Mark's products and I do not know him. I contacted him once about trying out some of his springs but never got around to it. I dont really care if he lies, his parts dont do what he says, or if he's a snake oil salesman, thats none of my concern. My point is this, I saw this infomercial the other night selling these little mini vacumns that suck ear wax out of your ear. Im pretty sure they dont work, but im not gonna call them everyday and tell them their product is never gonna work and their lying to the general public. That would hurt their business and if the public wants to buy their junk and spend some money to find out it doesnt work, then that would be their stupidity and their loss. My other point is why dont you guys go back to posting actual useful information.

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                • sj valley dave
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1016

                  #23
                  I think they all still do post useful info. As far as you not liking the other comments they make, treat it like your infomercial on TV...Don't read the thread..If someone on this board, and I'm NOT talking about just Dynoman, gives out erroneous information and they get called on it, so what?

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                  • swingarm4life
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 155

                    #24
                    I really had to go back and proof read my post and yep, im positive I never typed your name. I also never typed anything about changing the channel. I actually like watching that infomercial as I like reading Mark's posts, even if it is for occasional amusement. Im sorry, I didnt realize 4m hired post police, I thought that was the mod's job. In the meantime, why dont you pull that stick out of your a$$ thats making you so ornery.
                    Thanks
                    PS: Its your turn, because I can obviously see your pride and ego are too much for you to think someone else is getting the last word

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                    • swingarm4life
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 155

                      #25
                      Im not trying to ruffle any feathers here. I just dont understand why folks cant just read his post, get a good chuckle, and then go on to the good stuff. Also I apologize to sjvalley, that was uncalled for.
                      Last edited by swingarm4life; 01-16-2013, 03:05 PM.

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                      • sj valley dave
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 1016

                        #26
                        @swingarm4life...No problems, apology accepted.. I also used to enjoy reading Mark's post's. Some would make me smile and shake my head, but some would make me stop and think about what he said...But as time has gone on, his claims keep growing and getting more outrageous and he has starting calling people very derogatory names, etc...hate to see that

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                        • swingarm4life
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 155

                          #27
                          Im done!!!!!!!

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                          • Matt49
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 3123

                            #28
                            Originally posted by swingarm4life View Post
                            Ego, Stock Car, Matt49, and everyone else that bashes Mark on here, not trying to start an argument on here but you guys are really starting to stink up the place. Ive always read your posts and actually have learned some things, but yall are really starting to discredit yourselves. And before you start, no I do not use Mark's products and I do not know him. I contacted him once about trying out some of his springs but never got around to it. I dont really care if he lies, his parts dont do what he says, or if he's a snake oil salesman, thats none of my concern. My point is this, I saw this infomercial the other night selling these little mini vacumns that suck ear wax out of your ear. Im pretty sure they dont work, but im not gonna call them everyday and tell them their product is never gonna work and their lying to the general public. That would hurt their business and if the public wants to buy their junk and spend some money to find out it doesnt work, then that would be their stupidity and their loss. My other point is why dont you guys go back to posting actual useful information.
                            I fail to see how pointing out completely inaccurate statements made by someone else is any discredit to me personally...but...okay.
                            I appreciate your infomercial analogy because it allows me to demonstrate a point. The difference between an infomercial on TV and a racing message board is this:
                            There are racers out there (myself included) that rely on other racers for information when they are in a jam, scratching their heads, looking for solutions, etc. Due to the ultra-competitive nature of our sport, it's hard to ask your direct competitors for help. Even the ones for which you have mutual admiration and trust might give you misleading information and half-truths. Public forums like this one give people an opportunity to share some information that might help a fellow racer without the sting of them passing you on the last lap next week. Some racers really rely on the information they find on this and other racing forums.
                            Nobody has ever turned on the TV and actively looked for an infomercial to help them figure out solutions to a problem. There's a reason they are on in the middle of the night: because nobody cares (and because the time slots are cheaper).
                            But racers logon to Internet forums such as this one every day actively seeking good information they can use.
                            When I see someone post complete falsehoods and give racers information that is going to cost them time and money (something NO racer has enough of), it offends me...and I say something about it...and I'll likely continue to do so when time allows even if it makes some people unhappy.

                            No hard feelings...just my reply since I was specifically mentioned.

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                            • birdman9610
                              Junior Member
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 2

                              #29
                              first off i dont know dynoman but all in all he does have some useful info for a beginning racer!!! that being said you guys on here always bashing the man that makes you guys no better than some of his false info!!!!!! now back to the reason im posting to this thread is to actually agree with dynoman i know for a fact that stagger does scrub speed down the staights!! the less stagger you can make your car work with the faster lap times you will produce!!!! i think he could have worded it a little different to make it easier for some to understand!! dont beleive me or dynoman try it out i personally never run more than 2 inches of stagger in the rear tires and car will turn as good as any!! stagger in my opinion is a crutch for people that dont know how a dirt car works anyway!!!

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