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  • keeks
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 687

    #31
    I just see that solid 5th (bushings) as a potential bind. Aren't we constantly trying to find and fix binds?

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    • Matt49
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 3123

      #32
      Originally posted by CCHIEF View Post
      Lay under your car supported by frame on jackstands, fifth coil shock removed, rr coilover removed. Lr hanging on travel limiter,RR jacked up to simulate dynamic ride height when exiting /cornering Lift and return to static position the lift bar and note what the entire rear axle assembly does! The amount of travel the 5th coil or whatever you bolt there's travel has has a pretty substantial influence on handling/tracking overall dynamically, not just traction to the rear ties from leverage.
      Also note how much the pinion mount of the j-bar moves up. I think this if often overlooked or simply not even considered.

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      • Kromulous
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 3008

        #33
        I see alot of Mod guys out west are now running a behind the rear end pan-hard bar of some sort to combat this, pivot point raising up while the rear end is wrapping up.

        Just say no...

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        • CCHIEF
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2014
          • 399

          #34
          Originally posted by Matt49 View Post
          Also note how much the pinion mount of the j-bar moves up. I think this if often overlooked or simply not even considered.
          And now you have plenty to consider with the liftbar you have!

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          • CCHIEF
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2014
            • 399

            #35
            Spambotspew everywhere!

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            • TALON75
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 887

              #36
              Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
              I see alot of Mod guys out west are now running a behind the rear end pan-hard bar of some sort to combat this, pivot point raising up while the rear end is wrapping up.
              Are those sport mods? I believe they have to run the panhard to the rear as per rules.
              www.RACE91.com

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              • dkibel
                Junior Member
                • Sep 2015
                • 28

                #37
                Yes, those would be sportmods if they are running IMCA which is most tracks "out west". All of the Modifieds are using J-bars with pullbars. You will be hard pressed to find one that's not. Didn't modifieds in the 90's and early 2000's use a similar lift arm setup as the nueline but instead of the rod with biscuits I thought they used a chain with a spring. I vaguely remember seeing one and hearing that they built a ton of forward bite but never drove one for myself.

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                • Lizardracing
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 839

                  #38
                  UMP, USMTS, USRA mostly around here and lifts arm aren't as popular however there are a number of them and many of those VERY successful. Like track champions and national champions levels of success.

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                  • powerslide
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 2696

                    #39
                    Originally posted by dkibel View Post
                    Yes, those would be sportmods if they are running IMCA which is most tracks "out west". All of the Modifieds are using J-bars with pullbars. You will be hard pressed to find one that's not. Didn't modifieds in the 90's and early 2000's use a similar lift arm setup as the nueline but instead of the rod with biscuits I thought they used a chain with a spring. I vaguely remember seeing one and hearing that they built a ton of forward bite but never drove one for myself.
                    They had liftarm for decel and pullbar for accel. Can't have both now by rule

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