Counter steer question

[Ltemodel]

I would look more toward ackermann or dynamic toe changes as you turn the wheel.
After screwing around with this ove thw past several years, I think this is one of the most underated adjustment you can make to a front end.
I've seen as much as two and half inches of toe out in some of these front ends in both left turn and right turn.
Think about putting two and a half inches of static toe in your car and how much a snow plow it would be.
I think one of the best investments a racer can make right now is one of Sweets ackermann guages.
Put ride height bars in your car and find out what kind of toe you are getting in left and right turn.
then start adjusting the steering arm on the spindle to reduce it down.
Getting counter steer ackermann to near zero will help your car launch off the corner.

Good Luck,
Kevin

[MaverickSprints]

Counter steer caster assistance only helps with forward drive if you have weight transferring from front to back. If you are counter steering at mid corner while weight is still transferring from left to right, you're unloading the RR which will make the car looser. This is one reason I'm in favor of less caster than most "baseline" setups call for. The baseline setups are mostly calling for the same caster that the cars had in the 80s with no power steering. I think it's time to start rethinking why we need caster and caster split and what it is good for.

I disagree.

[Matt49]

I disagree.

Fantastic! Probably means I'm right then.

[RCJ]

I think it's more of a driving style/line than setup.Keeping the car straight is one way to help forward bite.That's what the traction circle theory explains.

[Kromulous]

Looking to rehash this topic a litttle.

My question is, would adding some Caster to the RF help a car that was consistently tight on entry? not by much but it wont cut hard like i want it too, its very speed dependent, which i know it the nature of these cars but nevertheless. Currently running 3 degrees.

I added some Camber to both sides, -/+ respectively, and have not run that yet to see the results.

[Nesmith14b]

In my experience, yes. More RF caster gives more RF bite on entry, but I wouldn’t call it a hard and fast rule. Since you pickup steered camber gain, the loss of tire bite from all the camber could offset the gain in grip from weight jacking. It would also depend on whether or not the RR is already under loaded or over loaded.

[Kromulous]

I believe i may try 1 degree and see if it helps.

I added camber to both sides, so i may wait to see how that pans out.