MasterSbilt RR spring

[35racing]

Im pretty sure it was to far to the right, but dont remember how far...

[dchamp3]

Did having it full closed on the rf seem to help any because on our cars we run them full closed all the time and what about your left front how much do you have there.

[racer241]

having it full close didnt seem to help a ton, the rebound doesnt seem super stiff in the shop though, maybe needs a rebuild? I think the LF was 6-8 clicks from full open

[4J Automotive]

Not to change subject or steal your post but while there has been some talk of 5th coil. I have a 09 masters and it really responds well being indexed on RR birdcage. We have tried several things with the LR wheel spacer being the most effective up to this point but we need more drive off the corner. We moved top left four bar and got worse. Can moving the 5th coil give us that immediate fix coming off without taking off the index on RR? To simplify my question: Where can we tighten the car on exit without moving the RR off index?Another question: If I rolled the rear end forward would it affect my entry with the RR being indexed?

[MasterSbilt_Racer]

Not to change subject or steal your post but while there has been some talk of 5th coil. I have a 09 masters and it really responds well being indexed on RR birdcage. We have tried several things with the LR wheel spacer being the most effective up to this point but we need more drive off the corner. We moved top left four bar and got worse. Can moving the 5th coil give us that immediate fix coming off without taking off the index on RR? To simplify my question: Where can we tighten the car on exit without moving the RR off index?Another question: If I rolled the rear end forward would it affect my entry with the RR being indexed?

Is the car too loose on exit, or does it lack forward bite? They are not the same thing. I assume you are saying that you raised the lr top bar and the car go worse? What is your max dynamic top bar angle? Do you have it indexed too? Is it standard length?

Any change to the static rear steer will effect entry and exit.

[sj valley dave]

What would you do with lack of forward drive off? If you index the LR top bar down on the bird cage, you have to drop it on the frame also, so you do not go over the 45% angle, correct? On real dry stuff our car is good except lack of drive off...

[4J Automotive]

Lacks forward bite. I love the car on the entry but it won't go forward on exit. We did raise top left bar and it was awful. Nothing on left side is indexed. I couldn't tell you what the top bar angle is and the bars are standard length. Let me rephrase; I don't want the car to change on entry but I want more forward traction? That make sense? Pardon me being naive here, I am relatively new to this.

[Matt49]

A few thing I would try:
* lower LR bar on chassis
* move 5th coil back
* less j-bar angle (this will free entry but give you better forward bite coming off, don't know til you try)
* more rear weight (this could tighten entry also)
* if track is slick, take lead out of driver's right foot

That last one is not intended to be funny at all. Often time the track will only handle so much HP regardless of your setup.
Sometimes you have to make an adjustment that might change the car on both entry and exit and compensate for the undesired entry change. For example, more rear weight to give you better forward traction off the corner. But then if you go out and it is too tight on entry, try raising your RR lower on the frame or softening your LF spring. Both of those changes will effect mainly entry and almost not at all exit. Net result could be right where you want to be.
The exact scenario above helped a guy I know a bunch.

[BIGFREAK101]

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# 1 if you got the left front up coming off your extending the left rear up to the point of it actually snapping the left rear off the track I would stop go back to a baseline setup from masterbuilt .
#2. Then place some of that lead (like 25 to 30lbs) of lead to the left frt in front of the master cylinders. Spread the wieght also to the middle of car as much as possible. Cam high and in the middle to make car balance .
#3 make sure frt shock on the left rear has the correct drop ie may or maynot need extension. More then likely you are good. There but check it.

Finally
#4. K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Stupid Don t over think it. When you get the left frt back down then play with the right rear spring. And when your at the track one night do nothing but some stagger out and lower the left lower bar to add bite to left rear and the driver must learn to drive the car straighter as the night goes along he must learn to drive a car a little free on entry. That's the problem you have to slower the driver down too not only the car. LOL good luck. The new GenX. Uses a 275 in the slick. good luck