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  • Rayburnt
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2017
    • 12

    #1

    Brake bias

    Anyone have approximate front to rear brake pressure reading when cranked to all rear? We're getting like 700front 175rear with all front, and 350 front 450rear with all rear. Wondering if that's the ball bark
  • Matt49
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 3123

    #2
    Originally posted by Rayburnt View Post
    Anyone have approximate front to rear brake pressure reading when cranked to all rear? We're getting like 700front 175rear with all front, and 350 front 450rear with all rear. Wondering if that's the ball bark
    That's way off.
    Are your master cylinders the same piston size?
    Also, brake bias gauges are notorious for being inaccurate. Make sure everything is bled properly also. Pump up and observe how much (if any) pressure differences change as you pump up. This helps find the soft spots but doesn't fix bad gauges.
    In the end, it could just be a poorly setup bias bar.

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    • 7uptruckracer
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 1336

      #3
      What's the proper way to set up a balance bar and the ride running to it from the cylinders? It's always something I've struggled with

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      • Matt49
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 3123

        #4
        Originally posted by 7uptruckracer View Post
        What's the proper way to set up a balance bar and the ride running to it from the cylinders? It's always something I've struggled with
        It is a pain in the arse. To the point that on our last two cars I've just bought the pre-assembled pedal assembly. Something like Willwood part number 340-11299. They are pretty much good to go out of the box.
        But if you need measurements on getting it right, check out this link and scroll down some:
        Find answers to common questions regarding installing pedal assemblies.

        The trick is figuring out how many threads you need sticking out of one piece before you thread into the next.
        As far as the cable goes, we used to have an issue with the very end of the cable piece (the hex part) hitting the right front bolt that holds the assembly to the chassis. So we used to use a cable tie to sort of suspend the cable to the frame rail above it. But now, I make my own countersunk washer and use a flat headed allen bolt to lower the profile of it and it stays out of the way.

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        • 7uptruckracer
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 1336

          #5
          I hate doing those measurements that why I asked lol

          Originally posted by Matt49 View Post
          It is a pain in the arse. To the point that on our last two cars I've just bought the pre-assembled pedal assembly. Something like Willwood part number 340-11299. They are pretty much good to go out of the box.
          But if you need measurements on getting it right, check out this link and scroll down some:
          Find answers to common questions regarding installing pedal assemblies.

          The trick is figuring out how many threads you need sticking out of one piece before you thread into the next.
          As far as the cable goes, we used to have an issue with the very end of the cable piece (the hex part) hitting the right front bolt that holds the assembly to the chassis. So we used to use a cable tie to sort of suspend the cable to the frame rail above it. But now, I make my own countersunk washer and use a flat headed allen bolt to lower the profile of it and it stays out of the way.

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          • Rayburnt
            Junior Member
            • Feb 2017
            • 12

            #6
            They're both 1" masters. Only ran the car once and didn't investigate it yet. They were rebco gauges that screw into the calipers. The gauges have only been used a couple time, so I'm assuming there good. Brakes were blead and ready to go.

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            • Matt49
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 3123

              #7
              Originally posted by Rayburnt View Post
              They're both 1" masters. Only ran the car once and didn't investigate it yet. They were rebco gauges that screw into the calipers. The gauges have only been used a couple time, so I'm assuming there good. Brakes were blead and ready to go.
              Quick way to check the gauges would be to swap them and see if the "problem" follows the gauge.
              Also check to see how much piston is exposed between the pad and the caliper. I never used to consider this but we were having trouble with losing rear pressure a couple years ago and a racer friend noticed we had more than 1/4" of piston showing in the rear but hardly anything up front. He suggested putting new pads in the front. It didn't make sense to me but we tried and sure enough we got our rear pressure back. Something to consider.
              ...and if anyone can explain the physics behind why this works, I'm all ears.

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