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  • Kromulous
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3008

    #1

    Extended Studs?

    Is it worth while getting extended studs for a Hub, we're running 007's, to facilitate running a 1 inch spacer? Vs running a dual nut set up?

    I know Mods run really long studs to do this, i seen one Rocket car with longer studs, but dont see it to often. Thought it may be worth while.

    Just say no...
  • RaceEngineer
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2018
    • 482

    #2
    With the wheel using the studs and nuts for centering, it's not good engineering practice.

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    • riddle28
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2010
      • 1084

      #3
      007 hubs will break the ears off too, especially rears. be careful

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      • fastford
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 4059

        #4
        im a little confused here , how is using a 1in spacer on longer studs going to produce more stress than a traditional 2 in spacer?

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        • Kromulous
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 3008

          #5
          I think with the traditional spacers, alternating the bolt pattern, the load gets transferred into the spacer, and then into the hub.

          Alternatively, if you have a long stud, with a spacer on that stud all the load goes thru the stud into the Hub, essentially with a longer lever arm to apply the load.

          As Race Engineer said bad practice, just took me reading with Fastford posted to realize it. Unless i am still thinking of it wrong.

          Just say no...

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          • RaceEngineer
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2018
            • 482

            #6
            Originally posted by Kromulous View Post
            I think with the traditional spacers, alternating the bolt pattern, the load gets transferred into the spacer, and then into the hub. Alternatively, if you have a long stud, with a spacer on that stud all the load goes thru the stud into the Hub, essentially with a longer lever arm to apply the load.As Race Engineer said bad practice, just took me reading with Fastford posted to realize it. Unless i am still thinking of it wrong.
            You are correct. 1" of stud length is taxed with holding the wheel on center. It isn't in simple shear. The wheel may move around.

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            • zeroracing
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 1014

              #7
              Wehrs, and I am sure others makes a nice 1" wheel spacer just like the 2", separate set of studs. Better option that running long studs and spacers.

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              • fastford
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 4059

                #8
                the farther the tire is away from the hub , the more load is going to be applied to the ears and there studs seems to me , which i have seen them run both ways and never seen one break without a crash so IDK...... ,

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                • RaceEngineer
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2018
                  • 482

                  #9
                  Originally posted by fastford View Post
                  the farther the tire is away from the hub , the more load is going to be applied to the ears and there studs seems to me , which i have seen them run both ways and never seen one break without a crash so IDK...... ,
                  The issue with the long stud is that the 5 studs determine your wheel center. The stud is in the hub now you essentially have a spacer that acts like a stack of washers on each stud. Then the wheel grips the stud toward the end, that lets the stud act like a spring between the hub and wheel when it comes to holding the wheel on center.

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                  • ZERO25
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 5240

                    #10
                    Howe has been selling their 1" screw on wheel spacers for a long time. I would think if theres a problem , they wouldn't be selling them.

                    I used them on a Rocket for over a year with no problems.

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                    • RaceEngineer
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2018
                      • 482

                      #11
                      Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                      Howe has been selling their 1" screw on wheel spacers for a long time. I would think if theres a problem , they wouldn't be selling them.I used them on a Rocket for over a year with no problems.
                      Screw on is not the same as slide on. Sill not as good as the traditional, but way better than slide on ring.

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                      • RaceEngineer
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2018
                        • 482

                        #12
                        The whole wheel should be centered by the hub to be a really good engineered piece. Just because something doesn't break does not mean it's good practice. There is right and probably works.

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