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  • hucktyson
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 1903

    #1

    Race Fan

    Has anyone done CFM testing between a 4 or 6 blade 19” “ race fan “ and the old school GM 442 fan ? I’m finally out of the good original GM ones and looking for something that moves as much or more air. I know 4 blades used to move more air than 6 but has race fan figured out a way to change that ?
  • billetbirdcage
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 2020

    #2
    This probably ain't gonna help you.

    Back story: Years ago, I wanted to test fans and 2 blade vs 4 blade. The only way I had to do this was to use the Air flow hats for the Carb that measures CFM (I have 2, one for a Dominator and one for a 4150 carb sizes). One was 1000 cfm and the other was 1400 CFM max, so I made a box to go on a shroud that attached both Air flow meters. The problem was I didn't have enough CFM to measure at a very high RPM, but ran up until it maxed out both flow meters. I had to make an educated guess from the limited data, but the more blades pulled more air at low RPM and as the RPM increased the numbers came closer together. I would have to look it up, but I think I maxed out the air flow meters at around 2500 RPM fan speed

    So going off that data, it appeared as at lower RPM the 4 blade would cool better and at higher RPM the 2 blade may get close to the same cooling yet use less power. Just wasn't enough data to make an accurate decision.

    That being said, a 2 blade GM fan (4 blade with 2 removed) doesn't seem to cool as well on a crate engine as the 4 blade does on the track, when it's really hot outside in the summer. Now while that could be from RPM not always at max or a number of other factors.

    Like everything, that is my experience and I'm sure others have different experiences
    Last edited by billetbirdcage; 10-27-2019, 11:22 AM.

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    • fastford
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 4059

      #3
      we run 2 blade on alky and the old 4 blade on gas...

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      • Jking24
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 1519

        #4
        We run the four blade configuration and have run it on a crate aswell as a 440 wide bore cornett with no issues. From what i have seen it's close to or as good as a gm

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        • billetbirdcage
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2020

          #5
          Misread your question, sorry.

          Anyways, everyone I know that runs the racefan uses either 3 or 4 blades with an open engine. I've never seen anyone run more then 4, but obviously not something you typically look at.

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          • hucktyson
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 1903

            #6
            Yeah the question was really does a 6 blade race fan move more air than a 4 blade race fan , because years ago the 6 blade steel stuff usually ran hotter than 4 blade steel stuff but I’m thinking it might have been because the 4 blades usually had a much steeper pitch than the 6 blades

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14324

              #7
              There are always diminished returns of more blades with increasing speed. I have serious doubts spinning a 6 blade fan at 8000 rpm is going to be a winner.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • JustAddDirt
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1893

                #8
                Allstar Performance has a new 19 inch GM fan they just released. 60º pitch.
                Hard to tell from the photo if the tip of the blades are the same as the factory GM. That is were a lot of the magic happens on the old GM blade.

                part # ALL30099
                I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                • Drake Racing
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 138

                  #9
                  I have an Allstar fan, it's a dead ringer for the 405442 gm fan.

                  Curt Drake
                  #55sr

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                  • JustAddDirt
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 1893

                    #10
                    fan

                    Originally posted by Drake Racing View Post
                    I have an Allstar fan, it's a dead ringer for the 405442 gm fan.

                    Curt Drake
                    #55sr
                    thank you for the info.
                    I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                    • Mopar DLM
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 217

                      #11
                      Has anyone tried the Keyser 2 blade or even their 4 blade carbon resin fans. Just wondering if there was any real world feedback on them yet.

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