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  • Higgy9991
    Member
    • May 2015
    • 66

    #1

    Stacked spring setup

    Looking for free spring lengths for stacked spring setups on lr and rf. Trying to get the most out of an old car, seems from reading this might be a big help. Black front rocket just updated front clip/ raised crossmember , raise rail, new blue/gray 4 link mounts. No underslung but does have prevision for lr bolt in.
  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14324

    #2
    Originally posted by Higgy9991 View Post
    Looking for free spring lengths for stacked spring setups on lr and rf. Trying to get the most out of an old car, seems from reading this might be a big help. Black front rocket just updated front clip/ raised crossmember , raise rail, new blue/gray 4 link mounts. No underslung but does have prevision for lr bolt in.
    It all depends on the rates and loads applied. Typically, an 8" and a 10" would be used on the lr. It used to be common to run a 6" and a 7" on the rf. As rates have gone down, the soft spring has gotten longer and the stiiffer one has gotten shorter. You just need to make sure you don't bind a spring. If a stop nut is used, you must also make sure you have threads on the shock body where it needs to go.
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    • Mopar DLM
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 217

      #3
      What spindles and front end are on it now with the raised cross member?

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      • Higgy9991
        Member
        • May 2015
        • 66

        #4
        Originally posted by Mopar DLM View Post
        What spindles and front end are on it now with the raised cross member?
        Still black front spindles, with one piece lowers. Primarily still black front geometry is where we are fixing to start plus little more camber on rf than originally prescribed in the 2015 rocket setup book. There isn’t any real good newer notes so gotta start somewhere

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        • Jking24
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2017
          • 1519

          #5
          I would stack the lr but just run a soft spring bump setup on the rf. Switching to two stack setups at the same time with no prior experience is a good way to get out to lunch quick imo

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          • Higgy9991
            Member
            • May 2015
            • 66

            #6
            Originally posted by Jking24 View Post
            I would stack the lr but just run a soft spring bump setup on the rf. Switching to two stack setups at the same time with no prior experience is a good way to get out to lunch quick imo
            I was more ore less trying to get the materials on hand to be able to test with them, currently have stuff to run various soft rf bump combos, tornado and tall barrel lr stuff. Like to have the stuff in the shop ready to smash and put on the car so i can get the most out of track rental.

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            • Jking24
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2017
              • 1519

              #7
              Their are alot of different rf combos and really no go to especially when it comes to the curve generally when you switch to a stack on the rf it's to manipulate ride height and you already have a load curve that works well for you. But the lr has a few fairly common setups that work pretty well on most stuff.

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              • Higgy9991
                Member
                • May 2015
                • 66

                #8
                Any suggestions for a good middle ground to start?

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                • Jking24
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2017
                  • 1519

                  #9
                  Lr 175/175 or a 90/200, RF 150/450

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                  • MasterSbilt_Racer
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2007
                    • 14324

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Jking24 View Post
                    Lr 175/175 or a 90/200, RF 150/450
                    Jkings rf suggestion will likely be used with a bump spring or something else to give a linear rate increase in the 3" to 4" range. It could also be done with something much stiffer in the bottom and later bump engagement. It's quite amazing how many ways you can hit every load number suggested with totally different components.
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                    • Higgy9991
                      Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 66

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                      Jkings rf suggestion will likely be used with a bump spring or something else to give a linear rate increase in the 3" to 4" range. It could also be done with something much stiffer in the bottom and later bump engagement. It's quite amazing how many ways you can hit every load number suggested with totally different components.
                      Awesome thank you guys. I will get some swifts on order, see if we can’t get out there and turn some laps mid July.

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                      • Jking24
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 1519

                        #12
                        I still contend that for the average guy that theirs not much speed in the rf alone if your not trying to manipulate ride heights your better off staying with a more traditional setup and learning how to tune it and what you want first.

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                        • Mopar DLM
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 217

                          #13
                          You might want to look into putting some grey spindels on it to match the updated raised cross member since rocket has never built a raised cross member and raised rail black front end

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                          • Higgy9991
                            Member
                            • May 2015
                            • 66

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mopar DLM View Post
                            You might want to look into putting some grey spindels on it to match the updated raised cross member since rocket has never built a raised cross member and raised rail black front end
                            The update work wasn’t done by rocket. It’s all still on the same pick up points as black front rocket stuff. To run blue/grey I would need to change much more than just spindles. Dixie Metal works and racing did a bunch of work on this thing.

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14324

                              #15
                              How much shock travel (rf) can you get before something hits the ground?
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