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  • TheJet-09
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 1616

    #1

    Thornton Jr's Door



    Unless it's an optical illusion, it appears his driver's door is not flush or "sealed" to the LR quarter. I'm sure it's not by accident (like they ran out of rivets), so I was wondering if anyone saw this in person, or has seen someone do this before?

    I can only assume it's to let air escape, but is there something to actually be gained by doing so?

    In looking at it again, the pic might have been taken while actually putting the wrap on, so maybe they did just drill out all but the very bottom rivet. Nonetheless, I'm curious...
    Last edited by TheJet-09; 01-09-2021, 08:55 PM.
  • Punisher88
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 495

    #2
    I would 100% bet that they removed the rivets or bolts holding the panels together to install the wrap.

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    • Jking24
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 1519

      #3
      It's just too install the wrap. Very common practice

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      • TheJet-09
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2013
        • 1616

        #4
        It makes sense. I tend to overthink things sometimes!

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        • rjs21
          Member
          • May 2007
          • 37

          #5
          They just aren't running fasteners where the door and quarter meet on either side. I believe it is to attempt to let air out from behind the body. He raced it that way I see.

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          • Jking24
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 1519

            #6
            Originally posted by rjs21 View Post
            They just aren't running fasteners where the door and quarter meet on either side. I believe it is to attempt to let air out from behind the body. He raced it that way I see.
            They took some out of the right side last night 😉

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            • Ltemodel
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 307

              #7
              Letting as much air out of the left side as possible will add downforce. Thas why I don't understand all the small wheel wells on the left side. I would open those puppies up and let as much of the air out as possible. When the car is in Yaw, almost all the time, the left rear corner becomes the rear of the car. Trapping air there acts like a parachute and takes away downforce. The right side is the exact opposite. seal it up as tight as possible.
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              • Burke1118
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2018
                • 222

                #8
                Originally posted by Ltemodel View Post
                Letting as much air out of the left side as possible will add downforce. Thas why I don't understand all the small wheel wells on the left side. I would open those puppies up and let as much of the air out as possible. When the car is in Yaw, almost all the time, the left rear corner becomes the rear of the car. Trapping air there acts like a parachute and takes away downforce. The right side is the exact opposite. seal it up as tight as possible.
                Cade dillard was letting a lot of air out his LF the other night when his flopper got ripped off....... why do you think he went straight backwards?

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14324

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Burke1118 View Post
                  Cade dillard was letting a lot of air out his LF the other night when his flopper got ripped off....... why do you think he went straight backwards?
                  More importantly, he lost his nose sideboard. It had little effect on getting air out from under the car.

                  That is also assuming his front end alignment was still all good.
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                  • Jking24
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 1519

                    #10
                    Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                    More importantly, he lost his nose sideboard. It had little effect on getting air out from under the car.That is also assuming his front end alignment was still all good.
                    It was probably letting more in than out

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                    • Ltemodel
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 307

                      #11
                      Because of air spillage, the left front operates a little differently than the left rear. Remember a couple of years ago when Richards showed up at Screven, I think it was, his left rear was cut on an angle to let a bunch of air out. I think they outlawed it after the first night I believe. It was a huge advantage. Now, if the side of the front fender got ripped off close to where it mounts to the door, I could see where that would be an advantage. The air passing over the nose needs to create the vacuum formed by letting the air out in the back of the wheel well. That is why we always pull the front end out and tuck it in behind the tire.
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                      • ZERO25
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 5240

                        #12
                        Many years ago, Ray Stonkus showed up at the Snowball Derby with the front nose completely sealed off. He had my friend who was the crew chief, fabricate a pan attached from the bottom of the nose to the steering rack. He told my buddy that he had been to the wind tunnel with a Cup team an found that it increased front downforce a ton!

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                        • Mopar DLM
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 217

                          #13
                          Most all the dirt rule books have had something in them for a while now that deems the pan illegal. Sure seems like a better way and lot cheaper way to help the front end than all the aero crap they are doing now.

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14324

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Mopar DLM View Post
                            Most all the dirt rule books have had something in them for a while now that deems the pan illegal. Sure seems like a better way and lot cheaper way to help the front end than all the aero crap they are doing now.
                            There are rules against enclosing the lower frame to upper frame down the right side too. But, a lot of them are.
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