Compression travel on the rr!

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  • ZERO25
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2018
    • 5240

    #1

    Compression travel on the rr!

    On the straightaway, how much does the rr spring/shock compress?(from ride height)
  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14324

    #2
    Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
    On the straightaway, how much does the rr spring/shock compress?(from ride height)
    Depends on track shape. Often it's extension.
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    • manwplan
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 351

      #3
      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
      Depends on track shape. Often it's extension.
      Yep and actual data would blow most people's minds. Often what you think happens is quite the opposite.

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      • ZERO25
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2018
        • 5240

        #4
        Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
        Depends on track shape. Often it's extension.
        Ok, give me some parameters!

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14324

          #5
          Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
          Ok, give me some parameters!
          Until something stops it, unless you really tie it down with a shock. Anything from 1/4" compress to 1.25" extension is well with reason.
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          • ZERO25
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2018
            • 5240

            #6
            What do you think their goal should be? Wouldnt it help aero wise to get it down lower.

            Some of the better cars at Eastbay were quite a bit lower. I saw a couple of rr springs that were put on before the features and they were very small.......i would say in the 150 range.

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14324

              #7
              Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
              What do you think their goal should be? Wouldnt it help aero wise to get it down lower.

              Some of the better cars at Eastbay were quite a bit lower. I saw a couple of rr springs that were put on before the features and they were very small.......i would say in the 150 range.
              You get the rr too low, it kills aero. Air is going to get under the front. It could be because the rr tire was the only one that worked, due to compounds allowed. They were probably trying to get the car to turn off throttle.
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              • JustAddDirt
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 1893

                #8
                Lift arms will Lift, until something stops it.(chain, heavy tie down shock...etc) Plus lift arm is on the right side of the rear end bell, which will try to plant the rr just a little harder because it is the closest tire to lift arm.
                Then there is the J bar....
                Also with the rotational direction of the gear set in a QC, it is trying to plant the RR harder as well.
                Lots of things not thought about going on, with the RR of these cars.
                I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14324

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JustAddDirt View Post
                  Lift arms will Lift, until something stops it.(chain, heavy tie down shock...etc) Plus lift arm is on the right side of the rear end bell, which will try to plant the rr just a little harder because it is the closest tire to lift arm.
                  Then there is the J bar....
                  Also with the rotational direction of the gear set in a QC, it is trying to plant the RR harder as well.
                  Lots of things not thought about going on, with the RR of these cars.
                  With shorter lift arm lengths being the current trend, that has a bigger effect than it used to.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • hunterracing
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 303

                    #10
                    We won a few races several years ago with lift arm 30 inches on a 250 spring no bump

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                    • ZERO25
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2018
                      • 5240

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                      With shorter lift arm lengths being the current trend, that has a bigger effect than it used to.
                      History repeating itself?

                      Like the old Smack days......325 @ 32"! Thats what worked for us in the nlms days!

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                      • CCHIEF
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 399

                        #12
                        You may find some 4" bump/helper springs on the rr to increase the extended load down the straight and maintain compression load. Without DA who knows on rr compression, personally I work with the 2" # and visually observed posture.
                        Last edited by CCHIEF; 02-11-2021, 09:03 AM.

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14324

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                          History repeating itself?

                          Like the old Smack days......325 @ 32"! Thats what worked for us in the nlms days!
                          I haven't done anything different on 5th coil since 1998. Tried stuff, but never found anything better.
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