2010 Rocket Black Front End Set Up

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  • gburg006
    Junior Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 10

    #1

    2010 Rocket Black Front End Set Up

    I am new to the forum and new to dirt late model racing (we come from Asphalt racing). Picking up a like new 2010 Rocket Black. I know it is not the most current chassis, but it is a like new chassis and we are just looking to learn for now and update in the future (it’s a bit of a learning curve going for late model stock cars to dirt late models).Any current set up information out there? Baseline smash numbers? I know the original black front ends did not have a raised rf and crossmember. However, someone also said that later black front ends may have this option already? Any truth to that? Thanks for the help and guidance.
  • Jking24
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2017
    • 1512

    #2
    I think the latter cars did have a different crossmember design that yielded a little more clearance. Call rocket get a book. And set the car to the standard settings and start their. Theirs no smash numbers from rocket for those cars. I recommend scaling then measure your center to centers and record results in smasher then just adjusting from their. Most of the advances in the new stuff is in how we adjust not necessarily the baseline

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    • gburg006
      Junior Member
      • Jun 2021
      • 10

      #3
      Thanks for the response. I have reached out to Rocket and have not heard anything back. Maybe one day…

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      • billetbirdcage
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2019

        #4
        The black front end has the lower control arm mounting holes quite a bit lower then newer cars so basically it's impossible to get the ground clearance of a new car least at the cross member area, sure you can probably get more then the cars had originally but you can't get close to a newer car.

        That being said, it's still a good car to learn with and get some experience with, you're just not going to be able to travel the front end as far.

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        • Jking24
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2017
          • 1512

          #5
          I don't know what "reached out" means call this number 304-592-3200 between 9-5 someone will answer when they do ask for parts. Someone will answer, ask them for a book they will happily sell one to you unless they have finally stopped producing them. If they have Steve baker will happily give you all the numbers you need to baseline that car

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          • gburg006
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2021
            • 10

            #6
            Steve sent me some information. I was expecting more current information related to shock, spring rate, and bump stop set up though. I am certain that shock technology has made a bit of the set up information provided from rocket obsolete. Any users have any current numbers or advice? Thanks.

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14303

              #7
              Originally posted by gburg006 View Post
              Steve sent me some information. I was expecting more current information related to shock, spring rate, and bump stop set up though. I am certain that shock technology has made a bit of the set up information provided from rocket obsolete. Any users have any current numbers or advice? Thanks.
              You be surprised what is and isn't on a typical xr1 sheet. They leave a lot of room for you to hit certain things, but find your own way.

              What you have is still current. What is different now, is thinking about loads at certain wheel travels, and changing those to adjust handling.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • gburg006
                Junior Member
                • Jun 2021
                • 10

                #8
                I just find it to be surprising. We had a Lazer for a bit. Their books are very thorough. The setup notes given to me from rocket…eh, not so much. I was not a ent a whole “book” so maybe that’s where things are different? Not sure.

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                • gburg006
                  Junior Member
                  • Jun 2021
                  • 10

                  #9
                  Edit: I was not given a whole book so that’s where things seem a little “incomplete”.

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                  • ZERO25
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 5240

                    #10
                    Did they email it to you? Its only 15 pages.

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                    • gburg006
                      Junior Member
                      • Jun 2021
                      • 10

                      #11
                      I got a xerox copy of one page… The page has some spring information, radius rod locations, ride heights, torque arm, front end settings, setup percentages, ballast, and basic additional adjustments. All of that is on one page. Not a lot of depth. I’m sure I will be asking a few questions on the forum to fill in the blanks. Does anyone know the shock stroke? 9 inch rears and 7 fronts? Or…

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                      • ZERO25
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2018
                        • 5240

                        #12
                        Call Rocket and ask for Bailee. She'll email you the book, free of charge.

                        If you want the smash numbers, youll have to ask for them (if theyre available)

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                        • MasterSbilt_Racer
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 14303

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                          Call Rocket and ask for Bailee. She'll email you the book, free of charge.

                          If you want the smash numbers, youll have to ask for them (if theyre available)
                          I'd suspect a guy would be best served to create his own smash numbers
                          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                          • ZERO25
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2018
                            • 5240

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                            I'd suspect a guy would be best served to create his own smash numbers
                            Would it still be considered "smash" if it only had 3" of shock travel? lol

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                            • MasterSbilt_Racer
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 14303

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
                              Would it still be considered "smash" if it only had 3" of shock travel? lol
                              I don't know. Lol. It's a dumb term anyway.
                              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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