Right side bars

[billetbirdcage]

Billet, not trying to sound dumb, but I thought that was the point of lowering the top bar? To keep the RR from standing up on the bars as much? (Above ride height)

You are correct. However let me say this: Just as MasterSbilt_Racer pointed out, in some instances that loss of thrust by lowering the bars is still enough to make the RR climb just the same and reach the same point. So some/many times you won't see much effect from the bar change, if the track is more sweeping on the straights where you still have a fair amount of lateral force on the car the RR will tend to stay down more from that change then say a track with really straight straightaways. So it boils down to how far the RR lifts for the most part (I'm leaving out a few things for simplicity)

But I’m assuming what you’re getting at is with the bars lower, it doesn’t pull the RR ahead as far when the RR is in rebound meaning the right side wheel base is actually longer on the rebound than it would be if the bars were higher?

Again it boils down to how far the RR moves and at what parts on the track it does this and if the bar change altered those points on the track. Obviously the higher the bars the more the RR pulls forward as it raises, but with the relative shallow angles and limited travel of the RR (compared to LR), one hole change usually isn't a ton of steer difference but it's for sure there.

So given the situation I have, lowering the top bar had little effect on what I was trying to accomplish? Atleast without making other adjustments to go along with it?

Very, very possible. If 1/2 a second after you pick up the throttle the RR is already above ride hieght, then it likely had very little effect you could feel. But if the car stays over on the RR and below ride or is now way slower to reach it's travel limit, then you should have seen an effect.

I'm not trying to be cryptic, but what the RR is actually doing is key to knowing whether or not you going to get much effect out of that change. Sometimes it can be almost nothing and other times pretty noticeable.

[shadowj38]

Billet, thank you for your time and knowledge. Same to you Mastersbilt. Glad I asked about this. You guys have made a few things click in my mind that I had not taken into consideration before. Now I just wish my race season hadn’t ended Saturday so I could go try some things!

[Kromulous]

Add some rebound to that RR shock, see how that grabs ya.

[shadowj38]

Krom, I’ll put it in my notes to try for next year. Thanks