In a seminar at the pri, he stated a coilover spring should be replaced every 20 races, because they lose their frequency not their rate. Agree or disagree?
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The natural frequency of a spring can be calculated by the equation f= √(k/m)/0.25Originally posted by ZERO25 View PostIn a seminar at the pri, he stated a coilover spring should be replaced every 20 races, because they lose their frequency not their rate. Agree or disagree?
K is the spring rate
m is the mass of the spring
If the spring didn't lose weight or rate, it didn't change frequency
You can really get down in the weeds about how spring spacing, modulus of elasticity, and diameters of wire and the wound diameter all affect mass and rate. But again, if mass and rate are not changed, frequency is not changed.Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 02-17-2023, 12:49 PM.Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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I messed the formula up the first time, I used spring mass system instead of just a spring.Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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I got a question:
1. Where does frank work?
2. What does frank sell?
That's a rhetorical question
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I asked him to PROVE to me the springs wear out, change rate, blah blah blah along with actual data of spring rebound rate and compression rate differences. He asked to me call him stating it was too much for the forum, I agreed, I called, he never answered or replied to emails after several attempts.
I can't say he's right or wrong, I just wanted some sort of data....just for my own personal curiosity and knowledge. Lots of people throw stuff around and make buzz words out of it like "spring hysteria" but I reserve opinions until I see some data...I never got it, never seen it.
I wasn't even expecting millions of dollars of R@D data either, I figured some sort of generic brochure data could be sent out a "proof" of why they are better than everyone else.
Later, I figured out he was sales.....figures.
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They may change. However, rate or mass has to change. Equations that correctly describe physics tell you the variables.Originally posted by Lizardracing View PostI asked him to PROVE to me the springs wear out, change rate, blah blah blah along with actual data of spring rebound rate and compression rate differences. He asked to me call him stating it was too much for the forum, I agreed, I called, he never answered or replied to emails after several attempts.
I can't say he's right or wrong, I just wanted some sort of data....just for my own personal curiosity and knowledge. Lots of people throw stuff around and make buzz words out of it like "spring hysteria" but I reserve opinions until I see some data...I never got it, never seen it.
I wasn't even expecting millions of dollars of R@D data either, I figured some sort of generic brochure data could be sent out a "proof" of why they are better than everyone else.
Later, I figured out he was sales.....figures.Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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Frank is at Swift now? Nice I delt with him at Eibach. Seemed like a nice enough guy, but a salesman!!I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.
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Change your springs every week, get new strange axles and a new shock brand every month and tell me how expensive racing is.
Don't forget the new Longhorn chassis every 8 shows either.Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 02-22-2023, 06:31 PM.Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing
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We spoke with him at a track a couple years back and his quote was something to the effect of "They couldn't get a budget together" talking about going to work for a different spring company. Seems a bit slimy to me from the one time i talked to him. As pointed out he's a salesman anything to sell another springOriginally posted by Fast3 View PostHe will gladly tell you how smart he is!
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I bought my first swift springs in 2012 , they were just becoming known in the dirt track world , and if I remember correctly , they guaranteed there spring to stay within one percent for long as you owned it , but any way , dont know this frank fellow , but this goes against their original claims ,
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