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  • ZERO25
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2018
    • 5240

    #1

    Frank Simonetti

    In a seminar at the pri, he stated a coilover spring should be replaced every 20 races, because they lose their frequency not their rate. Agree or disagree?
  • MasterSbilt_Racer
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 14303

    #2
    Originally posted by ZERO25 View Post
    In a seminar at the pri, he stated a coilover spring should be replaced every 20 races, because they lose their frequency not their rate. Agree or disagree?
    The natural frequency of a spring can be calculated by the equation f= √(k/m)/0.25

    K is the spring rate
    m is the mass of the spring

    If the spring didn't lose weight or rate, it didn't change frequency

    You can really get down in the weeds about how spring spacing, modulus of elasticity, and diameters of wire and the wound diameter all affect mass and rate. But again, if mass and rate are not changed, frequency is not changed.
    Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 02-17-2023, 12:49 PM.
    Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14303

      #3
      I messed the formula up the first time, I used spring mass system instead of just a spring.
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • billetbirdcage
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2019

        #4
        I got a question:

        1. Where does frank work?
        2. What does frank sell?

        That's a rhetorical question

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        • stempy
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2017
          • 24

          #5
          motorsports director swift springs

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          • MasterSbilt_Racer
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 14303

            #6
            Originally posted by stempy View Post
            motorsports director swift springs
            Aka Chief spring salesman
            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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            • Lizardracing
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 839

              #7
              I asked him to PROVE to me the springs wear out, change rate, blah blah blah along with actual data of spring rebound rate and compression rate differences. He asked to me call him stating it was too much for the forum, I agreed, I called, he never answered or replied to emails after several attempts.

              I can't say he's right or wrong, I just wanted some sort of data....just for my own personal curiosity and knowledge. Lots of people throw stuff around and make buzz words out of it like "spring hysteria" but I reserve opinions until I see some data...I never got it, never seen it.

              I wasn't even expecting millions of dollars of R@D data either, I figured some sort of generic brochure data could be sent out a "proof" of why they are better than everyone else.
              Later, I figured out he was sales.....figures.

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14303

                #8
                Originally posted by Lizardracing View Post
                I asked him to PROVE to me the springs wear out, change rate, blah blah blah along with actual data of spring rebound rate and compression rate differences. He asked to me call him stating it was too much for the forum, I agreed, I called, he never answered or replied to emails after several attempts.

                I can't say he's right or wrong, I just wanted some sort of data....just for my own personal curiosity and knowledge. Lots of people throw stuff around and make buzz words out of it like "spring hysteria" but I reserve opinions until I see some data...I never got it, never seen it.

                I wasn't even expecting millions of dollars of R@D data either, I figured some sort of generic brochure data could be sent out a "proof" of why they are better than everyone else.
                Later, I figured out he was sales.....figures.
                They may change. However, rate or mass has to change. Equations that correctly describe physics tell you the variables.
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • JustAddDirt
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 1893

                  #9
                  Frank is at Swift now? Nice I delt with him at Eibach. Seemed like a nice enough guy, but a salesman!!
                  I think there should be lifeguards in the genepool.

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                  • ZERO25
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2018
                    • 5240

                    #10
                    According to the video, him and Bubba Gale have done some extensive testing!

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                    • MasterSbilt_Racer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 14303

                      #11
                      Change your springs every week, get new strange axles and a new shock brand every month and tell me how expensive racing is.

                      Don't forget the new Longhorn chassis every 8 shows either.
                      Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 02-22-2023, 06:31 PM.
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                      • Fast3
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2023
                        • 2

                        #12
                        He will gladly tell you how smart he is!

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                        • powerslide
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 2696

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Fast3 View Post
                          He will gladly tell you how smart he is!
                          We spoke with him at a track a couple years back and his quote was something to the effect of "They couldn't get a budget together" talking about going to work for a different spring company. Seems a bit slimy to me from the one time i talked to him. As pointed out he's a salesman anything to sell another spring

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                          • fastford
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4059

                            #14
                            I bought my first swift springs in 2012 , they were just becoming known in the dirt track world , and if I remember correctly , they guaranteed there spring to stay within one percent for long as you owned it , but any way , dont know this frank fellow , but this goes against their original claims ,

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                            • SlicktoSlime
                              Junior Member
                              • Sep 2021
                              • 16

                              #15
                              Free spring Frank!!

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