525 crate vs open motor

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  • rubbinsracin
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 668

    #16
    does anyone know?

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    • poppy
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2008
      • 151

      #17
      They are a different type seal. Much harder to imitate. Plastic cover and etched in numbers on bolt. I think this will be tough to screw with. Someone told me they were the same as Nascar but I do not know that for sure.

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      • dfhotlm33c
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 224

        #18
        I will tell you that the 525 can be competitive, even on wide open tracks...

        I watched a race at Pennsylvania Motor Speedway (BIG 1/2 mile..measure 1/2 on inside..so more like 5/8 mile) where an open motor big shot couldn't catch a 525 guy for the lead...

        mind you the 525 gets 150 lb weight break over an aluminum block open motor at that track, as well as a 12" tall spoiler instead of 8", and gets two spillboards on the nose that the open guy doesn't get..and you could really see the difference off the corner where the 525 driver really got better forward drive..so if your track gives breaks for running the 525, it may work out...

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        • powerslide
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2696

          #19
          Originally posted by dfhotlm33c View Post
          I will tell you that the 525 can be competitive, even on wide open tracks...

          I watched a race at Pennsylvania Motor Speedway (BIG 1/2 mile..measure 1/2 on inside..so more like 5/8 mile) where an open motor big shot couldn't catch a 525 guy for the lead...

          mind you the 525 gets 150 lb weight break over an aluminum block open motor at that track, as well as a 12" tall spoiler instead of 8", and gets two spillboards on the nose that the open guy doesn't get..and you could really see the difference off the corner where the 525 driver really got better forward drive..so if your track gives breaks for running the 525, it may work out...
          that spoiler and the fins make a huge difference from what i understand i dont know where you are going to knock off 150lbs maybe 50pds

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          • MR EXCITEMENT
            Junior Member
            • Jun 2011
            • 25

            #20
            i got the call from RJ after the 100 saturday night and he told me that only with right track conditions will the 525 keep up, but now different ones are fussing about letting them have the weight break and the spoiler.

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            • MasterSbilt_Racer
              Senior Member
              • May 2007
              • 14324

              #21
              Originally posted by powerslide View Post
              that spoiler and the fins make a huge difference from what i understand i dont know where you are going to knock off 150lbs maybe 50pds
              If the open guy has to weigh 2300, it should be doable. The 525 doesn't have a dry sump system. It doesn't need a huge radiator. With careful selection of components I think it can be done. Driver can't ge a huge guy either.
              Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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              • rubbinsracin
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 668

                #22
                walked the pits this weekend at an MLRA NCRA race and kept my eye open for cars with a crate and saw 3 of them. 2 of them ran in the middle of the pack and the other 1 ran at the back.

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                • fastford
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4059

                  #23
                  Originally posted by MR EXCITEMENT View Post
                  i got the call from RJ after the 100 saturday night and he told me that only with right track conditions will the 525 keep up, but now different ones are fussing about letting them have the weight break and the spoiler.
                  i think the world of rj , but he couldnt even get out of the way at the mike head jr race with the 525 a few weeks back, and he usualy wins or runs up front there with a spec motor,

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