Old Style Nose ?

[RacerX10]

the XD-4 has been to the wind tunnel and outperforms anything out there

Can we see the data ?

[lazermod3]

no you can't see the data but just ask anyone that has driven their car with one and they will tell you the difference is noticable.

the reason you cant see the data is that there are many small things that make a huge difference and they paid the bill and spent the time.

check out the circle track article from last year.

[RCJ]

What kind of down force numbers in general does a late model have?

[lazermod3]

idk for sure but i am making an assumption that its in the hundreds of pounds from what i here the guys talk about. cause they claim the xd setup beats out everyone by neirly 80lbs. i would say that sounds like alot but i know on my car i could tell a huge difference in the way it steers after only changing the nose.

[lazermod3]

from the horses mouth but not word exactly.

the test used the 3 popular designs and a wedge style also the old camaro. all were installed like typical noses in the same manner.

air density and barometer readings as well as wheel load cells took readings from various locations. the results were based on that. the conclusion was that the wedge was a more efficient model and created more downforce than any of the others. which led to the design of the xd nose. there were 3 others before the xd-4 which is why its called the xd-4.

they say the main problem is that more lift is created with the other packages and the xd has the solution to that problem built into it. so inturn more air is used to push the car down which is why they say 80 lbs at 80 mph more.

[Egoracing]

It says that the lower lip is molded in but in the picture it is a different color and it is pop riveted on.

[lazermod3]

the lower is moulded into the nose you must be looking at an md-3.

on rices car i think they use florencent tape to color the lower part but is is definitly moulded to the nose and the fender bottoms. NOT riveted its a great piece and you don't really notice the difference until you park 2 cars with different noses next to each other

i see what your saying they have the bolts through the lip attching it to the bumper supports but that orange on the bottom is a solid part of the rest of the nose the only way to remove it is to cut it off.

[JCSullivan00]

The picture of Rices' car on the racing junk ad definitely DOES have rivets on the bottom of the nose.

[Egoracing]

They are rivets and the bottom lip is folded all to heck and is only part of the way across. It does not appear to be tape but a plastic piece. On the MD-3 the 2 layers of plastic once riveted together make it a MUCH stronger piece and it will be stronger than any single piece of plastic unless it is 2 times as thick.

[RacerX10]

I haven't heard a word about Cd (drag coefficient)

Downforce is all well and good but but Cd is at least as important and the older rounded style nose will be better than the triangles they are selling now (XD, MD)

[larryhag]

try AR bodies is Greenbrier Tn ph 888 245 1468

[lazermod3]

i'm not gonna argue about rivits or what ever its all 1 piece the xd is an awsome product and they are pricing it right and fair. it has better material and fits right together everytime without trimming plus the guys at l.s.g. are good people.

goto a trade show and see it for yourself they have a real nice display that you can look at for yourself.

as far as drag goes i think with the bodies we have on these cars you could have the most efficient nose ever and its not gonna change that aspect, just think about it.

[WIN-WIN]

[QUOTE=lazermod3;1306410]the XD-4 has been to the wind tunnel and outperforms anything out there when it comes to downforce. check them out plus i think they look alot better, and i know they're alot less expensive.QUOTE]

Is this the part you bring the blind guy out of the crowd and sell him some of your miracle potion and miraculously he can see??

[RacerX10]

Is this the part you bring the blind guy out of the crowd and sell him some of your miracle potion and miraculously he can see??

<golf clap>

Well played, sir

[lazermod3]

HATERS gonna HATE.

don't hate the player hate the game. and there are alot of c/o's out there mad that l.s.g. is selling these so cheap.

carry on