18* sbc steel heads

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  • perfconn
    Senior Member
    • May 2007
    • 3636

    #1

    18* sbc steel heads

    Would there be much of a market for 18* small block chevy steel heads?
  • SS Motorsports
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 431

    #2
    I would think there could be a good market for them, be it circle track racing, drag racing or any other form providing the cost could be kept somewhat inline with the other steel heads out on the market now. But 99% of the people that will post on this topic will find some way to shoot holes in a new idea or just say there are enough products out there now, and this will be just another way to make engine builders rich. My opinion about the steel heads now is they seeem to be limited in the sense of how much you are able to get out of them. I personally think that steel heads are a good way to help control some of the cost, but I know of some engine builders in the Florida area that have built probably hundreds of steel head engines, and when you send the heads to a what I consider to be a very reputable and extremely good at what they do racing head service you end up with a set of 2500-3000 dollar heads because of limitations on the 23deg. steel heads out now. I think an 18deg. steel head would be a great idea because in theory there should be less machine time involved in getting a lot more performance out of an 18deg. cylinder head. This is just my opinion and I am sure it will be shot full of holes as well by people who have never been part of the racing industry and are keyboard performance experts.

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    • perfconn
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 3636

      #3
      I could get some done but I'm just not sure how much of a market there would be since there are 14* steel heads available.

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      • sj valley dave
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 1016

        #4
        Hey Terry, I think the question is how many classes are out there that you could use them...I know here in CA a lot of the iron head classes also have the 23* +/- one degree stipulation...I like the idea...For drag racing, where you might not have those restrictive rules, they might be a hot set up...

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        • powerslide
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 2696

          #5
          the weight is a big thing w/ them i think as well when you get below 23degree they start to get pretty heavy

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          • perfconn
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 3636

            #6
            I don't think there would be much of a market in drag racing,just buy 18* aluminum heads,but there are lots of circle track classes that require steel heads.Like dave said, there are restrictions in some classes but not others.

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            • SS Motorsports
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 431

              #7
              I know alot of the asphalt modified guys in Florida parked their cars because of not really being able to afford the aluminum 18deg. or SB2 stuff. Having limited budgets and not being able to get the performance out of the 23deg. steel heads they have or can get their hands own. I have seen quite a few different sets of rules that allow weight breaks for steel head engines vs. alum. head engines, so there may be more of a market than one would initially think. I certainly wouldn't jump out there and have 15 or 20 sets on the shelf but may also be beneficial to find a guinea pig and try at least a set or two out onsome cars.

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              • slojo25
                Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 42

                #8
                heads

                racer pro in austrailia used to have 18 degree steel heads

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                • perfconn
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 3636

                  #9
                  Not saying your wrong.I been in circle track stuff for 20 years and I never heard of any.Pro Action or whatever they were before RHS bought them out had a 14*

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                  • andy16
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 310

                    #10
                    i dont think that would work at all... i have NEVER EVER seen a rule that said had to run steel heads that didn also say had to be 23* +or- 3* for angle milling. im pretty sure those 14* steel heads flopped for that very reason. when they first came out everyone was like oooooooh its a steel head and then they read the rules and was like oh yea 23*

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                    • perfconn
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 3636

                      #11
                      Don't know how to copy and paste on this tablet but you can go to several websites such as: moulton raceway(2 barrel),greenvalley raceway(sportsman),boyds speedway and you will see that not all tracks have a + or - at all on their steelheads.

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                      • andy16
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 310

                        #12
                        i may not understand. i looked at moulton rules. it didn give a degree and said you could angle mill. but it did say no aftermarket heads. so if you can angle mill it to 18* i guess itd be legal. but im pretty sure all you can get is three degrees and have it live for any amount of time.

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                        • perfconn
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 3636

                          #13
                          The moulton rule for no aftermarket heads is for the late model sportsman class.The 2 barrel rule allows any steel head with anything you want to do to it,same as Boyds Sportsman steelhead rules.

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                          • andy16
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 310

                            #14
                            i stand corrected... sorry thanks for pointing that out.

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                            • stevo
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2008
                              • 622

                              #15
                              Dart steel head that susposed to be 23 will check 19 and don't have to use 18 degree rockers.

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