Pull bar or 9010 on a late model???

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  • LLOYD-XMAS
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 165

    #1

    Pull bar or 9010 on a late model???

    Are any of the cars good in the slick running either of these. Rocket, mastersbuilt, victory circle, bloomquist etc.. Pros and cons???
  • LLOYD-XMAS
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 165

    #2
    Anyone?? Anyone????

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    • racinhawk
      Member
      • Mar 2008
      • 34

      #3
      Nobody runs a 90/10 unless its extremely slick, then maybe, depending on your setup.

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      • 4bangerhotrod
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 374

        #4
        ive never tried a pull bar on a LM 4 bar setup it might work on a extremly slick track but I think this would produce so much forward bite you would have a hard time getting the front end to stick, I believe it would be trying to pick up the front end any time you picked up the throttle. I'm sure that someone with alot of time and money could make this work with tons of testing through shocks and pull bar placement and angle. I think the reason it works so well on mods with 4 bar is because they have a 8in tire limiting the bite so it can't produce enough forward to have an overwhelming effect on lifting of the front end. I maybe completly wrong on these thoughts but this is what I have figured while thinking about this before. but I do think there could be something to this if somebody has the time and resources to work it all out.

        thanks,
        4bangerhotrod

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        • RacerX10
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2007
          • 571

          #5
          I run a pull bar on my 4 bar car, it's no big deal.

          Pull Bar (torque link) or 5th coil (on a ladder bar) are both doing the same thing. 5th coil setup is more tunable (in general) but it's more of a driver preference thing. Neither is faster than the other if both are set up correctly.

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          • F22 RAPTOR
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 1023

            #6
            Originally posted by Living_Truth
            Simple answer is no. 90/10 are pretty much non-existent on Late Models now. Pull bars are more common on 3-link (modified) design cars.

            Rayburn, Killer, KMRC, Warrior-SA and many more use pull bars in conjunction with swing arm suspension usually. Barry Wright built some 4 link cars in the past with pull bars that were dang near bullet proof back in the day. 90/10 aren't used much anymore since the "On The Hook" setups caught on. Most have switched to a higher rebound 5th arm shock, but the theory is that the 90/10 hinders hike up. Now Rayburn uses either a 1/14 or a pair of 10/90's laid back towards the rear of his cars.
            "If racing were easy, everybody would do it."

            #77 Leon "Slick" Sells

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            • LLOYD-XMAS
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 165

              #7
              What do you mean "on the hook setups"?? Thanks

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              • crate late
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 137

                #8
                LR shock behind

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                • GRTLRBITE
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 787

                  #9
                  bloomer and others are running a high gas pressure 90/10. not like the old 90/10's. in the slick

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                  • hucktyson
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 1903

                    #10
                    There is an excellent chance you know exactly what bloomer has on his personal car......

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                    • LLOYD-XMAS
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 165

                      #11
                      Do bloomer and them run a 5th coil and a 6th coil with the high pressure 90/10?? Thanks for all the replies...

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                      • shockman
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 622

                        #12
                        Lol.......

                        When discussing Bloomquist....dont EVER forget just because you see something....doesnt mean it is what you think you are looking at. LOL...............Shockman

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                        • Norton71x
                          Member
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 35

                          #13
                          I don't know anything about the bloomer setup, but I do know that Ive driven an older Shaw car that was 4bar both sides, with a pull bar setup including the 90/10 and the car 3 wheeled higher than anything Ive ever seen before. often times even in the slick...but despite the abundance of grip the car never seemed much faster than any of the other cars around me. but fun to drive for sure.

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