Why aren't more top teams using the LS type engines?

[jrkracing54]

AN MSD box isn't a computer? Sorry, but it is. Any solid state ignition has is s simple computer. The Bloomquist engine that stirred all the crap years ago was built by Fletcher Made up in Winchester, Va. IT DID have coil packs. Not a dizzy. Like I say win one big race sell 100 motors, otherwise, you don't sell any. It's that dang simple. Nobody is gonna go get an LS out of a Camaro in the Junkyard trick it out and win the World 100. EVER. There's already better stuff for sale.

As I said I KNOW you can put a distributor on it. I said build a winner and sell engines. NOT gonna happen.

I thought that Bloomquist ordeal was a Vic Hill engine? I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure Hill told me his engine of choice is a SB2. I also have a friend who has a couple 9* dart engines by Propower and I think he likes them. He runs alot of big tracks though. John 1*

[F22 RAPTOR]

AN MSD box isn't a computer? Sorry, but it is. Any solid state ignition has is s simple computer. The Bloomquist engine that stirred all the crap years ago was built by Fletcher Made up in Winchester, Va. IT DID have coil packs. Not a dizzy. Like I say win one big race sell 100 motors, otherwise, you don't sell any. It's that dang simple. Nobody is gonna go get an LS out of a Camaro in the Junkyard trick it out and win the World 100. EVER. There's already better stuff for sale.

As I said I KNOW you can put a distributor on it. I said build a winner and sell engines. NOT gonna happen.

My point exactly. MSD=Multiple Spark Discharge, sounds a lot like having individual coil packs for each cylinder to me. No idea what Bloomquist ran, but would like to see rules amended to allow the multiple coil packs on LS engines.

[perfconn]

I was there and it was an LS engine and it wasn't built by Vic Hill and it didn't win either.

[Egoracing]

AN MSD box isn't a computer?

Calling a 6AL a computer is like calling a $3 calculator a computer, It takes an actual computer to run the multi coil setup. With a single distributor you may have had a deal to get it done but a large part of the advantage may have been taken away with the computer and coil packs..

Lucas Rules;
MISCELLANEOUS:
C. NO computer controlled devices of any kind permitted.

WOO has this rule;
In the event that there are new engine components and/or a new engine configuration
they must be submitted per the World Racing Group submission requests prior to
being introduced into competition.

I think that is for of they are not familiar with the engine or part they can say no.

[Rocky]

I suppose so, but all you really need to run coil packs is a crank signal (and in some applications a cam signal.) You don't need MAF, or ECT or TPS signal.

All it does is what advance weights used to do on regular distributors before racers stopped using them locked their distributors solid and started running their advance curve through the MSD box. I can see why there would be a reason to keep this technology out. Because what may start out as poor boys with junk yard motors would end up with every 13 and 9 degree etc retrofitted for them. Then a cheated box would let you run a V6 on short slick tracks and a monster on bigger tracks, without changing the engine I mean you could maybe. If it as legal for LS style motors, you'd have to let everybody else.

[Rocky]

IMO, why not outlaw non mechanical advance dizzy's. Weights and springs and moving advance or you DON'T run. The way I see it UMP/Dirtcar WoO and Lucas would have ALREADY outlawed this practice. 3 dollar calculator or not, it's a computer and a computer controlled ignition. The sport is filled with chassis swapping and chassis blaming when you could EASILY dial back your motor for like 6 bucks for a curve kit at the speed shop. Make them learn how to tune THE ENGINE. there's no such thing gas DE tuning... Only tuning and IMO everybody is letting the box tell them that perfectly good chassis builders can't hook up what they EASILY (and cheaply) could. No I am not saying points, you can have a box and a module, even though you wouldn't REALLY need it.

[racin6mod]

a few years ago at knoxville iowa tony stewart ran a couple ls engines the first one had an issue they put in the second he start in the rear and ran threw the field finished top 3 on a fast half mile track.they can build good power his I'm sure was top of the line stuff we couldn't afford. it did had the dist. up front(ford msd)to make it legal.

[regis78]

we have one and like it . its just a little over 800 hp. power is very smooth. we going to go a little big cube to see if we can get a little more hp. if u would like the name of motor builder let me know.