2012 Rayburn spinning the tires

[rayburn33]

It's not a leaf car it is just like the swing arm car pictured above the only difference in the picture above and my car is the direction of shocks on top of the rearend mine is heading forward and the link bar has no adjustments on mine (can't go up or down ) on either side but on the 07 it had adjustments for the link arm

[rayburn33]

The torque arm is square tubing not fiberglass

[abe_05]

K, CJ was playing with the fiberglass arm 2 years ago. Sounds like you have a test car. I would love to see picture of what you have.

[4bangerhotrod]

Are you sure that your swingarms are not pointing forward from the bottom of the birdcage with your shocks and springs on them and your trailing arms pointing to the rear off the top of the birdcage. That's the way a Rayburn should be setup i think you may still have your terms wrong. Just t.
rying to help clear up the confusion

[4bangerhotrod]

There called trailing arms because they trail be
hind you.

[rayburn33]

Ok no the trailing arms are just like the ones pictured above in dragons post it looks like that on my car on both sides both arms are heading backwards and link arm forward and after doing some research all the Rayburn's have multiple holes for link arm to be raised my does not it only has one gusset to bolt to

[Dragoon55]

Mr dragon I do drive my car thank you and it's nice your such a smart ass yes I may not know all the real names to the parts on my car but I am honestly trying to describe them my car is like the swing arm above it has the shocks on the link arm and I guess if its what you call it the swing arm to the rear it is this way on both sides and referring to my 07 it had swing arms going forward and backwards on both sides it also had the purple bar this one doesn't it also has a torque arm that is a 2 inch by 2 inch bar that has a 90 10 shock on top of it and a green spring in front of the shock and yes it was preloaded before I got in because when at Rayburn's shop that's the way Roy (Rayburn's employee) installed it and as far as the afco shocks I mentioned on my 07 they was on the rear of the axle pointing toward the fuel cell on this one they are on too of front of axle headed forward the only way to adjust this car is moving swing arms which is pointing backward up or down I have tried uploading photos but I only have a phone and it will not allow me to I am sorry for not knowing proper names I am describing the best that I can and as far as the torque arm on my 07 it had a lift bar with spring and chain etc. this is just a bar and only moves up and down about 8 inches at most Rayburn told me this was a design in the 80s with a fiberglass rod

Sorry about my earlier comments, that was rude of me, but I couldn't make sense of your posts to be any help at all. I'll try and keep it in check, been working a lot of hours. I responded to you PM.

Lets start all over because of the confusion lets start with the rear end on the drivers side the swingarm goes to the rear and the link arm goes forward and has no adjustments up or down the swing arm to the rear has 9 holes to adjust with and also on the driver side also has a straight bar with no adjustments now on the right rear the swing arm goes to the rear the same way as the drivers side the link arm on rr is also carrying the shock as on the drivers side the swing arm goes to the rear as well and has 7 holes to adjust with now the torque arm has a 90 10 shock on top and is approx 6 foot long and goes beside the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)pit thru a tubular halo which limits how high it can raise the shock on too also has a green spring in front of the shock and the whole set up was preloaded by Rayburn now on top of the rearend I have 2 afco shocks facing forward and as I stated earlier on my 07 they was pointed to the rear now I have described this the best way I know how and I have adjusted with the springs and different holes with the swingarms I have no idea what to do any further

I think I'm more lost than before, not being smart but it sounds like a nightmare or an acid trip. Maybe with some pics, I sent you my email. And the swing arms are behind the axel... Wow

[moonshine]

No one has asked the right question. If you had a 07 CJ why in the world would you buy another one?

[rayburn33]

I didn't buy another 07 I was buying and did but a brand new 2012 that I thought was a better car come to find out its just a headache

[zeroracing]

Rather than bash and pile on this guy it is better for the entire forum to try to help. That is what separates this one from the gossip forum.

Unfortunately I have not had a Rayburn, old or new, what you have sounds different, which may not be a bad thing. In this case though it seems to be. A good friend a few hours from me bought one as well, after chasing their tale for months sent it back and had it redone to a standard car. They are a good team with a driver in the HOF, if they struggled with it then a regular guy will probably really struggle.

I would do one of three things.

1. Cut/chop/rebuild it as a four bar with help from guys on here, especially billet birdcage.
2. Send it back and have a standard set up put on it.
3. Sell it off and get a different car all together.

Sorry to hear about your miss fortune, and hopefully you can get some guidance, if I were you I would be making a decision from the three above and going forward.

Good luck

[rayburn33]

Well I want to give a shout out to Abe he called me and after a hour of discussion has put me in the right way my car is a swingarm car but not your typical swingarm after I talked to him I done a little research and found out that there were about only 50 made and I got one it is a swingarm with a mono ball set up and has limited adjustments for whatever reason CJ thought that taking all the adjustments out of this car like the older cars like the 07 I had would be a good idea now I am not saying all 50 cars has the same amount of adjustments but what I am saying mine is limited thank you for all your help and all the post and the few that actually was trying to give me support instead of bashing me I am gonna try my new found knowledge and see how it goes may all you have a great rest of the season

[Dragoon55]

No one has asked the right question. If you had a 07 CJ why in the world would you buy another one?

Well thats just mean. Cj use to build quite a car, now I'm not sure about this one, below are the pics he emailed me. I don' t see how this system can work at all. To me it defeats the purpose and use of the original pullbar. JMO

[racin6mod]

quite a few years ago we ran a modified the used a reese hitch bar cut off as a fifth arm this was on a mono leaf car. this looks like a similar deal.

[racinjason29]

Ive got the same car, same setup, I have to use the same heavy springs and still it drives like junk. The pullbar sounds like a driveshaft is coming out of it! It has no forward bite and all mine does is spin. I also have the same problem with pushing on a banked tacky track, if you find something that works let me know. Im taking mine and having the old pullbar mounts welded back in and using the old style pull bar with a lift arm.

[pcope98]

Ive got the same car, same setup, I have to use the same heavy springs and still it drives like junk. The pullbar sounds like a driveshaft is coming out of it! It has no forward bite and all mine does is spin. I also have the same problem with pushing on a banked tacky track, if you find something that works let me know. Im taking mine and having the old pullbar mounts welded back in and using the old style pull bar with a lift arm.

Well boys i have the same pullbar setup, won several races with it ,do your cars have the 4 bar brackets? I did change somethings on my reese bar from what cj had me setup on, i had so much traction that it would pull both front wheels even in the slick, if you wanna know what i did to make it work pm me, i also lost the junkfuel cell he used and went to a wedge cell....