Rocket stiff like a wagon in the back..outta things to check HELP

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  • save the racers
    Senior Member
    • May 2013
    • 271

    #16
    I had a LR front shock bolt that would hit the LRL bar wasnt a rocket and didnt go solid but just something to look at. Also had a brand new long slip yolk that wasn't splined all the way down. Brinn was fine but try to stuff the yoke all the way in and it would stop. Did you try taking the axles out and bouncing on it? Bent 5th coil shock? Spin the shafts easy way to tell if the shocks are bent.

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    • 17m fan
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 388

      #17
      Maybe on to something with the slop in the birdcage as mentioned above. I haven't ever had any apart but this seems a little excessive to me. Click the pic below for video.. This is the rotor side of the left rear birdcage.

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      • jedclampit
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 613

        #18
        You got work to do. Liners,washers and lots of CLEANING!
        Make sure cages/axle tubes are not worn excessively.
        I feel you found your problems.

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        • 17m fan
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 388

          #19
          Liners be here in the morning. I washed and cleaned everything up real nice. I checked the inside of the cage with a mic and it seems to be nice and round. There is even minimal scaring on the top side of the cage and tube so I'd say it's ok.
          Not checked the tube yet because I hadn't pulled the inside clamp yet but I will just to be sure since I'm down this far to it anyway.
          Last edited by 17m fan; 07-30-2014, 05:20 PM.

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          • fox1162002
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2008
            • 131

            #20
            Take STP oil treatment and oil your new liners will help with wear.

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            • hpmaster
              Banned
              • Aug 2009
              • 1088

              #21
              Take some time to check your rearend for toe in or toe out. A little toe in is ok but any toe out will really make a car drive like junk. Also check tubes for cracks or any problems in the mounting bolts and bell areas while you are doing everything else. Good time to inspect all the stuff back there.

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              • save the racers
                Senior Member
                • May 2013
                • 271

                #22
                These are high dollar finely tuned machines, that much dirt and grease is terrible. Get better on the car wash portion so you can see issues when they arise. I think you found the problem.

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                • 17m fan
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 388

                  #23
                  I know it looks bad. It hadn't been washed yet.
                  New liners put in and slop is gone. I not sure that has fixed the bound up problem but, at least the car is better than it was. Will report back later on when I get it all back on the ground. I appreciate everyone's input .

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                  • jedclampit
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 613

                    #24
                    Did you get nylon washers too? They need to be in the right places, you may have been missing one that broke and pushed out. That will definitely bind the cage when bearing weight. Replace nylon liners and washers annually if you race once a week.
                    BTW ......You figured it out yourself!

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                    • 17m fan
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 388

                      #25
                      Car works more free than it did before, more lift on the LR when picked up under the seat...still stiff across the back. Better than it was in some aspect...I give

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                      • jedclampit
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 613

                        #26
                        Not sure how you got more lift/drop?
                        4 bar cars are stiff, especially the lr with the coilover behind axle
                        Put bottom rods in top holes on frame
                        top bars in bottom holes on frame
                        bounce the rear, it should be softer
                        don't race it that way!

                        If you think something besides the springs are holding the car up take just the springs off, and jack rear end up with car on stands ...and not all the way!

                        Some pictures may show something that is out of place. Another possibility is the cages are not for a rocket.

                        Hope you find what your looking for.

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                        • ConleyRacing18
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14

                          #27
                          Make sure you ESE the nylon washers on both sides of the cage too so just a little slop doesn't cause a bind. I noticed not seeing any. If nothing else at least toward the rotor on the RR. A little slop isn't bad as long as nothings hitting. Grease them every night of racing. Hope this helps.

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                          • ConleyRacing18
                            Junior Member
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 14

                            #28
                            You definitely have a little too much though. Might have found your problem.

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                            • ConleyRacing18
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 14

                              #29
                              61/4 RR ride height. Top of birdcage. Where they bolt together to bottom of frame.

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