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  • nolimits9
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 182

    #1

    Bernheisel Laser ??

    I was wondering if anybody could give me any input or help with a laser chassis . Whats everyones thoughts on them positives and negitives . We race on AR 56 mostly and tracks are mostly slick for the features .
  • FlatTire
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2007
    • 560

    #2
    I know where there is 2009-ish chassis for sale. Probably could be picked up real cheap. I'm pretty sure it has little to no races on it.

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    • 7uptruckracer
      Senior Member
      • May 2009
      • 1336

      #3
      Hard to get traction off in these cars. Update the Spindle and Lower on the car to their new one. It helps a lot. It takes alot of work their baseline stuff it useless throw that out from the get go.

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      • racer86
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2013
        • 20

        #4
        I have race a 2007 and 2012. I have race a 2012 for the last 2 years. had the Diamond front on it at first. Did good but when track temp was down, we lost grid. We are on spec tires so no help there. This past year Jim had me on the black Diamond front and change rear springs. The car was super consist and was way better when track temps are low. Over all Happy. PM me if any more ?s and she is for sale. I am changing classes or i would have no problem running her again.

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        • 7uptruckracer
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 1336

          #5
          I believe hes only running the Diamond on the RF now and leaving the other side standard or Vice Versa where at the beginning was the diamond ob LF and RF

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          • dirtcarz05
            Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 31

            #6
            I would not waste your time and money on one

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            • hucktyson
              Banned
              • May 2007
              • 1903

              #7
              Here's my input ... They claim no one runs them nationally because he doesn't give them away... If you think Davey J parked his rocket that had probably 10 night on it that he won at east bay Lucas and Tyler county WOO to pay full price for a lazer your crazy ...

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14324

                #8
                Originally posted by hucktyson View Post
                Here's my input ... They claim no one runs them nationally because he doesn't give them away... If you think Davey J parked his rocket that had probably 10 night on it that he won at east bay Lucas and Tyler county WOO to pay full price for a lazer your crazy ...
                People don't run them cause the "cool kids" don't. They are one of the finest constructed cars out there, period.
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • JTSjet
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 272

                  #9
                  i will vouch for construction quality and they offer a ton of adjustability, as if there wasn't enough already. that can be good and/or bad though.

                  i wouldn't bother with anything older than 2011. not that they weren't good cars just that with setup tendencies everyone is moving toward lately makes them a bit obsolete. i really like the changes he made for 2014.

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                  • hucktyson
                    Banned
                    • May 2007
                    • 1903

                    #10
                    I've been hearing this for years , best engineered , best craftsmanship , best design , best support .... Looking at these cars I really don't see this space shuttle craftsmanship ... They do a good
                    Job but I don't see anything spectacular that I keep seeing claimed on here . What wins on Saturday sells on monday and until they start winning 10k plus races on a regular basis they won't be big sellers.

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                    • hucktyson
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 1903

                      #11
                      And don't get me wrong this is nothing against the lazer people , I hear they are
                      Good guys but the bottom line is the stuff needs to win big races to sell. Club 29, longhorns , and sweet Bloomquist cars all cost twice what a lazer does and those cars have a line waiting to buy them for a reason ...

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14324

                        #12
                        Sit Billy Moyer in one and they would. And there was a line of people waiting to buy the street.com stock at 50 a pop too. If you are a local guy without sufficient jack to line some pockets, it doesn't matter if your car is a Rayburn, rocket, masters, or a lazer. It is going to go as fast as your driving and intellect can take it. But the lazer will have nice welds and some nice, subtle, touches that make it quality.
                        Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 11-16-2014, 11:57 AM.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • mab475
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 165

                          #13
                          I seriously doubt the above. Davey Johnson tried and couldn't make it work. I worked on a lazer last year and could get real close but the thing just flat suffered for forward in the black slick. I know my way around a car and I've won races with several brands and never had so much trouble getting forward drive in a car. Btw I'm not a driver I'm a crew chief.

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14324

                            #14
                            Originally posted by mab475 View Post
                            I seriously doubt the above. Davey Johnson tried and couldn't make it work. I worked on a lazer last year and could get real close but the thing just flat suffered for forward in the black slick. I know my way around a car and I've won races with several brands and never had so much trouble getting forward drive in a car. Btw I'm not a driver I'm a crew chief.
                            Been a few years since the Juice was consistently doing damage. I have some personal success wrenching a Lazer on tracks that are not easy to get ahold of.

                            The cars have plenty of adjustment. You could always toss a different spindle on it. (I didn't.). Any properly constructed chassis can work. It isn't magic. It is physics.
                            Last edited by MasterSbilt_Racer; 11-16-2014, 05:47 PM.
                            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                            • 06Tireman
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 163

                              #15
                              we ended up with MasterSbilt Smackdown spindles on our 2012 Lazer.. Spacer on RF.. Best finish we had was a 2nd.. Ran the car 18 races.. Pretty much gave it away to get rid of it.. Went back to Mastersbilt.. Been happy since..

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