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  • eight r
    Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 91

    #1

    650 or 750 carb

    10.5:1 358 spec motor 570 hp. what carb should you run?
  • Brian Gray
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 1102

    #2
    Either . the 650 will come out of the hole a little better . but ultimate ly which ever helps the over all feel better for you.
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    • Brian Gray
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 1102

      #3
      The 358 I run I have been as far as 1.75 on the Venturi's it is really what ever you need.
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      • Brian Gray
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 1102

        #4
        On The NASCAR stuff usually an 830 is what we used
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        • hucktyson
          Banned
          • May 2007
          • 1903

          #5
          Surely you mean 1.75 baseplate not Venturi ...you should have around a 1.400 Venturi carb for a spec motor.

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          • Matt49
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2007
            • 3123

            #6
            Originally posted by eight r View Post
            10.5:1 358 spec motor 570 hp. what carb should you run?
            If you're just planning on picking up an off the shelf 650 or 750, I say it really doesn't matter as neither will perform well without proper metering, jetting, and dialing in for your fuel type, cam, and car weight.
            Getting hooked up with a knowledgeable carb guy is money well spent. Every engine and weight combination has its own unique fuel curve demands and an off-the-shelf carb will rarely suite a racing application.
            But if you are going to go with off the shelf, the 650 would be "better". Unless you're going to turn that motor crazy high RPMs and/or run on big wide open race tracks, you'll never need the 750 and it will hurt bottom end.

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            • FlatTire
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 560

              #7
              I don't see that Willy's even offers a 650. All there stuff is 750 or 850.

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              • Brian Gray
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2012
                • 1102

                #8
                I had a 1.75 Venturi on my 358 at eldora huck . Yes Venturi . It does kill it on the low end but I was having to rev that motor to the moon.

                She would run out half way down the back stretch with the 1.55
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                • hucktyson
                  Banned
                  • May 2007
                  • 1903

                  #9
                  Your talking out of your a$$ again a carb that size is useless in dirt oval racing. You would use such a carb drag racing with a 7k stahl convertor. I had a 1.59 braswell 4 circuit on a 430 and it was worthless below 4000rpm and when it finally went if would blow the tires off the car . You can't correctly control the power when the carb isn't responsive . KB sold me a 1.410 and the car was a rocket on starts and 10 times more drive able . Maybe the 1.75 carb is why you looped it all alone and took out the leaders ... Honestly dude claiming to need a 1.75 on a 358
                  Is one of the dumbest things you have said. I understand a 430 will pull nice fuel through the carb than the 358 but if the 1.59was WAY too big for a 430 a 1.75 is sure as hell too big for your 358

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                  • Brian Gray
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1102

                    #10
                    I didn't say you need it . I'm saying don't let the numbers get in the way. Give it what it wants.
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                    • Brian Gray
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 1102

                      #11
                      I didn't loop it all alone birky nailed me as I was pulling off and what you seen was the aftermath
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                      • Brian Gray
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 1102

                        #12
                        And for the record since my issue was feeding a 358 steel block with a carb way too big. What's your excuse . Did cornet build you an overpriced turd?
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                        • hucktyson
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 1903

                          #13
                          No my motor is perfect , unfortunately it's a small part of the equation . I finally had the car decent in the b on Saturday and got taken out in turn 4 on lap 1. Don't worry I'll be back this year. The dyno may say a 1.75 is great on a 358 but a race track doesn't and we don't race dynos.

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                          • Brian Gray
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2012
                            • 1102

                            #14
                            Very true. Stay classy huck !
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