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  • lmracer87
    Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 88

    #1

    Shock Help

    Whats the best shocks going right now for Late Model ? And on the Ohlins which is better Piggy backs or the LMJs ? What about Afcos ? Just looking for opinons. Thanks Jeff C from MI
  • hotshoe65s
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 273

    #2
    Integras are doing good. Ohlins are good, and the piggyback shocks seem to be the style of choice. Not too many big name guys run AFCO anymore, but that's not to say they couldn't work.

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    • zeroracing
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 1014

      #3
      I just went to JRI shocks, have not even had them on the car. I was running integra but they seemed to bend shafts if you looked at them wrong, just could not afford to be rebuilding shocks every couple weeks. Ohlins are good, some cars will not fit the piggy back on the front mounts so check that before you order.

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      • Brian Gray
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2012
        • 1102

        #4
        Now that we have jerry link at afco you will start seeing more teams on them. Big changes in the shock world coming soon.
        Shocks by BGR army

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        • grt74
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2009
          • 1380

          #5
          the name is not the factor anymore,its the service(tech dept) and parts availablity,most people miss this for the most part,the numbers and the curve are what is the factor for the most part,just because a shock has a name doesn't mean its going to perform better,it whats in the shock that matters for the most part,on todays level if you don't have an understanding about shocks and have a dyno,you are completely at the mercy of the shock builder,just saying
          but with all of this said afcos are ok but you'll need to check them more often than the top brands which are,jri,ohlins,penske,integra,repeatability is what you want in a shock along with service and cost
          and yes jerry will be a huge asset to afco with all of his years in the business,afco will soon have a top tier shock
          Last edited by grt74; 06-14-2015, 02:49 PM.

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          • Brian Gray
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 1102

            #6
            I think we have underestimated afco for years already. For the most cost effective part of their program is the piston options they have available. You can buy various parts to change the piston functions at a small fraction over Penske, integra ect.

            For budget racers the afco should already be top on thier list. Simply because you can build the exact same profile out of an afco as you can with any other but do it with significantly less money.
            Shocks by BGR army

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            • grt74
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 1380

              #7
              Originally posted by Brian Gray View Post
              I think we have underestimated afco for years already. For the most cost effective part of their program is the piston options they have available. You can buy various parts to change the piston functions at a small fraction over Penske, integra ect.

              For budget racers the afco should already be top on thier list. Simply because you can build the exact same profile out of an afco as you can with any other but do it with significantly less money.
              nothing wrong with afco,they just have to be checked more often

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              • save the racers
                Senior Member
                • May 2013
                • 271

                #8
                If you want to rebuild them yourself look at bilstein.Parts are cheap and easy to get.The guys at BSB Have been very helpful for small amount of money I have spent with them.

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                • grt74
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 1380

                  #9
                  Originally posted by save the racers View Post
                  If you want to rebuild them yourself look at bilstein.Parts are cheap and easy to get.The guys at BSB Have been very helpful for small amount of money I have spent with them.
                  don't know why i forgot about them but yes they will do the job too

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                  • lrnvlFan1w
                    Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 58

                    #10
                    We always have liked our Genesis shocks and get good service when they need repair or we need advice... Also ran Integra's which were good and got good service from Accu Force

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                    • hucktyson
                      Banned
                      • May 2007
                      • 1903

                      #11
                      Gray this is a serious question , since you consider yourself a foremost expert on shock design and function as well as race car engineering and vehicle dynamics why don't you start a consulting business like Ronnie Stuckey ??? Surely a man of your skill could charge a couple hundred a shock just to change shim stacks ...

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                      • MasterSbilt_Racer
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2007
                        • 14324

                        #12
                        Originally posted by grt74 View Post
                        nothing wrong with afco,they just have to be checked more often
                        Really? Some brands have adjuster shaft sticking issues. Really something with most of them. The M2 type shocks have always worked well as far as durability, IMO.
                        Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                        • powerslide
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 2696

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MasterSbilt_Racer View Post
                          Really? Some brands have adjuster shaft sticking issues. Really something with most of them. The M2 type shocks have always worked well as far as durability, IMO.
                          Hence the reason pretty much anyone without a shock dyno should not have them. Unless you are going to send them in every 10 races to get them checked then you might be ok. They are very fragile from what little we have seen of them.

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                          • MasterSbilt_Racer
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2007
                            • 14324

                            #14
                            Originally posted by powerslide View Post
                            Hence the reason pretty much anyone without a shock dyno should not have them. Unless you are going to send them in every 10 races to get them checked then you might be ok. They are very fragile from what little we have seen of them.
                            I was actually referring to the Ohlins, as HP was. I have had no issues with AFCO that were not a crash induced problem.
                            Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                            • powerslide
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2007
                              • 2696

                              #15
                              I'm sorry I wasn't referring to any one brand. I think any double adjustable is fragile.

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