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  • 57m
    Junior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 21

    #1

    dry slick

    Hi the question is would dropping the lr rear spring rate from a 250 to a 225 would this help tighten up the car to drive straighter in the dry slick and if not what adjustments would you recomend to tighten the car enough to drive straighter. Thanks
  • Matt49
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 3123

    #2
    Originally posted by 57m View Post
    Hi the question is would dropping the lr rear spring rate from a 250 to a 225 would this help tighten up the car to drive straighter in the dry slick and if not what adjustments would you recomend to tighten the car enough to drive straighter. Thanks
    Lowering LR spring rate will free your car off the gas and tighten your car on the gas.
    The trick to being fast in the slick is getting the car to turn without sliding the rear tires. That is accomplished a number of different ways and when I figure it all out, nobody on here is going to hear about it from me :-)

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    • MasterSbilt_Racer
      Senior Member
      • May 2007
      • 14304

      #3
      Originally posted by 57m View Post
      Hi the question is would dropping the lr rear spring rate from a 250 to a 225 would this help tighten up the car to drive straighter in the dry slick and if not what adjustments would you recomend to tighten the car enough to drive straighter. Thanks
      That is the million dollar question. Less lr spring rate may help your instant bite off the corner because your dynamic ride height will be higher if you are on the bars. You might just need more static wedge. Your RR might be trailed too far and you might be chasing the rear up the track. You might have a car that basically handles well but you light the tires up with the gas pedal. These things are complicated.
      Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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      • hatchet
        Member
        • Nov 2011
        • 46

        #4
        But a softer lr spring will tighten the car up on enter off the gas . Off the gas the rr will plant the tire to the track so the front end will go up the track .

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14304

          #5
          Originally posted by hatchet View Post
          But a softer lr spring will tighten the car up on enter off the gas . Off the gas the rr will plant the tire to the track so the front end will go up the track .
          You and Matt can both be right. That is why memorizing a cheat sheet for adjustments will have you wrong about half the time these days. We are not all on mono leafs, always riding on springs anymore.

          If the car is sitting on the lr spring, you are right. If the car is more supported by the bars and momentum of the chassis, Matt is correct because the lr is higher and roll steered more as a result.
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • hatchet
            Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 46

            #6
            If you are off the spring and let off the gas which rear tire will have the most weight on the tire ?

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            • hatchet
              Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 46

              #7
              If you are off lr the spring and let off the gas which rear tire will have the most weight on the tire ?

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              • 57m
                Junior Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 21

                #8
                The right rear would get more weight

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                • MasterSbilt_Racer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2007
                  • 14304

                  #9
                  If the car is accelerating laterally, the rf is really pinned, the lr won't settle down. Spring doesn't matter. I have seen cars with no lr coilover win. Only struggled on restarts.
                  Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                  • Matt49
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 3123

                    #10
                    Spring rate on a beam axle (like what we have in a late model) also has an effect on roll center location...just saying.

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