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[powerslide]

"it felt fine".

typical driver lol

[billetbirdcage]

The reason I ask is that I was recently told by a well known driver, that doesn't run caster stagger. He said he like his car to steer the same, left and right. I tried it on a car I crew chiefed on, but with a new driver, I couldn't get any feedback, one way or the other, other than "it felt fine".

Billet Shrugs

There is a 100 ways to skin a cat, just cause I don't like something or think different don't mean I'm correct by any means.

The number 1 problem with most teams is what is felt or seen by the crew, is usually inaccurate. They are typically trying to fix the wrong thing or the driver is just feeling something wrong thus wants to fix the wrong thing. You have to figure out what your drive can and can not feel and some drivers have really good feel, while others not so much. The ones that have a hard time feeling or recognizing the problem needs to rely on the crew much more. A driver like that can still be very successful, just usually makes them way less consistent and requires the right crew guys or crew chief.

Even drivers with good feel, can't or won't be sensitive to some things. I've had drivers that one you move the j-bar a 1/4" on the pinion and send him out and he will come back in a say: " I said only move it a 1/4", how far did you move that dam thing?" and another driver I move it an inch and he come back in and ask if I moved it, lol.

But to answer your question, I prefer to leave the split there strictly from a pull stand point. We all probably have driven a POS street car with worn out front suspension parts or a ton of play in the steering and it's not bad to drive on a crowned road where it pulls to the left from the crown in the road as you just hold the wheel tensioned to the right and it drives fine. But get it on a flat road and you are sawing at the wheel to keep the car straight and pray a cop isn't behind you or you might get pulled over for DUI from weaving all over the place.

[let-r-eat]

I know those types of drivers. I once had a 5 pound weight and used it often to settle drivers down. The car would be working fine but driver mistakes would make the finish only so-so. I'd take the 5 pound weight and put it just under the decking on the passenger side and tell them: "Now the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) thing will turn like a rocket ship."Be surprised how that little sugar pill worked. I've been a hero and a zero for that trick.

[25drtrkr]

I know those types of drivers. I once had a 5 pound weight and used it often to settle drivers down. The car would be working fine but driver mistakes would make the finish only so-so. I'd take the 5 pound weight and put it just under the decking on the passenger side and tell them: "Now the (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) thing will turn like a rocket ship."Be surprised how that little sugar pill worked. I've been a hero and a zero for that trick.

LOL....I didn't know when I signed up for crew chief duties, years ago, that I had to be a part time psychiatrist, too!

[save the racers]

Billet, I think your comment about just how much weight is the left front carrying is a very good question.When drawing a graph for m/c location the r/f and l/f are used as equals to place it.Lets say 50% r/f ,50%l/f.But on the track the amount of load or work being done is 75 r/f ,25 l/f or some figure like that.I've started looking at the r/f as a system by it's self.I don't have enough laps with these ideals to make to make any positive statements but the little light bulb over my head has came on a few times.