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    Senior Member
    • Dec 2013
    • 128

    #1

    Free up entry

    How to free up entry when up on bars without loosing drive off? Trying to change driving habit and keep car up on bars, but now car won't rotate in middle of corner. Only way to turn is to drop throttle and roll middle of corner. Thanks in advance
  • Matt49
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2007
    • 3123

    #2
    Softer LF spring
    Stiffer compression in RR shock
    Softer rebound in 5th coil shock
    Stiffer compression in LR shock
    Stiffer 6th coil
    Softer RR spring
    Flatten J-bar
    Increase LR bite

    The last 3 could also give you more drive off the corner.

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    • RSS
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2013
      • 128

      #3
      Springs now LF 550, RF 325, LR 200, RR 225. Only LR behind shock with chain, got traction shock just havnt put it on yet. Car rolls into rf hard on entry but pushes up at mid corner. All help appreciated.

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      • dirtdobberrr
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 29

        #4
        If the car is turning in o.k., you might lengthen the passenger side wheelbase 1/4" to 1/2".Matt49 mentioned flattening the j-bar, I agree, but if you are on the bottom of the pinion with the j-bar, you may need to come up some.

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        • MasterSbilt_Racer
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 14307

          #5
          Originally posted by RSS View Post
          Springs now LF 550, RF 325, LR 200, RR 225. Only LR behind shock with chain, got traction shock just havnt put it on yet. Car rolls into rf hard on entry but pushes up at mid corner. All help appreciated.
          I typically associate mid corner with j bar. Unless you are getting back in gas...
          Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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          • RSS
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2013
            • 128

            #6
            I'm just below pinion on j-bar, and I would consider it getting back on gas as I'm trying not to lift had and drop off bars.
            Last edited by RSS; 07-08-2015, 05:55 PM.

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            • Matt49
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 3123

              #7
              Let's try it a different way. Are you decelerating or accelerating when you have the loose condition.

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              • RSS
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2013
                • 128

                #8
                Not a loose condition, driving car into corner on bars,(maybe half throttle) get to middle of corner(on RF frame rail) and car pushes up if I don't drop throttle to rotate. Maybe I'm doing it wrong, but trying not to get beat in and through middle as bad

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                • dirtdobberrr
                  Junior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 29

                  #9
                  How many inches of rake in your j-bar?

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                  • MBR Performance
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 199

                    #10
                    Raise your LR bottom rod 1 hole on frame.

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                    • powerslide
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2007
                      • 2696

                      #11
                      He wants to know how to get the car to turn like davenport does on entry with the LR still hiked up i believe he is trying to trail brake. Davenport looks like he never lifts a lot of the time. I'm sure he's lifting some but the rear of the car doesn't set down and the car still turns when he gets to the center. I've tried it on occasions and when its heavy it does just like he has said get to the center and won't turn.

                      What track are you at i think that plays a big part.

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                      • RSS
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2013
                        • 128

                        #12
                        I'll have to measure jbar rake tonight, normal track for us is 1/2 mile, medium banking at best. Softened LF spring, to try something.

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                        • hucktyson
                          Banned
                          • May 2007
                          • 1903

                          #13
                          If your having to " drop " the car to get it to rotate the car is too tight .

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                          • stock car driver
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2007
                            • 3233

                            #14
                            stiffer rr spring will free it up ON the gas into and thru the corner

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                            • hucktyson
                              Banned
                              • May 2007
                              • 1903

                              #15
                              Exactly SCR ... The guy is complaining that his car won't rotate the center and the crate superstar no one has ever heard of suggests a softer RR spring .... I would just weld a 225 on there and adjust something else.

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