Best option to reduce loose in just off thorttle

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  • parocket
    Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 69

    #1

    Best option to reduce loose in just off thorttle

    What is the best option to reduce loose in just at the time off throttle? Car's rear steps out too much at the moment drive lifts then can't get it back under.

    LF spring? Wedge? Shorten wheel base on RR?

    I've tried a combination of things which has helped but he feels it need another 30% tighter.
  • hucktyson
    Banned
    • May 2007
    • 1903

    #2
    You can go as high as 650-700 on that left front spring

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    • DEKconsulting
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2015
      • 234

      #3
      Wheres jbar on pinion

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      • Matt49
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2007
        • 3123

        #4
        Sounds to me like you're loosing traction because of engine braking...I'm guessing this is a big high-compression motor.
        Try a softer 6th coil spring or stiffen the rebound on the 5th coil shock if that's an option. Both will help this condition.

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        • parocket
          Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 69

          #5
          J Bar is std position on pinion one up from bottom,
          LF is a 450lbs spring
          Crate engine turning up to 6800 rpm generally (but I have considered pulling some gear)

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          • hucktyson
            Banned
            • May 2007
            • 1903

            #6
            A 450 is about the softest you would ever run over there ... Try a 550... Or take out that mega compression open engine out that the crate guru suggested you have ... The 550 is a real adjustment that is guaranteed to effect the condition you are experiencing ... It might be too much but going 100lbs will show the driver what it does ...

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            • parocket
              Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 69

              #7
              Would like nothing more than to run open motors but can't afford the quality engines and the ones I have built on a budget don't hold together long enough.

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              • MasterSbilt_Racer
                Senior Member
                • May 2007
                • 14310

                #8
                Lf spring is a very good adjustment for entry handling.
                Modern Day Spec Wedge Racing

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                • 7uptruckracer
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 1336

                  #9
                  What's the rest of your setup. You have a lot of options. You definitely want the crate car to be free but you also want it to drive very very straight. Is the attitude of the car right? Can you stand to have it better in other areas? Most any change will be a compromise even the LF spring with the packages we have these days. You can add some LF compression. Take out some RF compression. Take out some RR compression. Jbar up on frame or down on pinion. Shorten RS bars if you are on the neutral free side elsewhere or the car is yawed out. You need to decide if it's too much rear steer or no sidebite and scotch up on the RR. You can also drop the Right lower bar a hole. So many options. Soften 6th coil to a 350 if it's not already. We found on the rocket if your too far back it will wrap the pinion hard and cause an entry issue. You can also add 5th rebound. Some of the LR shock options can actually hold in rear steer more and add to your problem. Really think hard about which problem you have in the rear

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                  • parocket
                    Member
                    • Feb 2010
                    • 69

                    #10
                    LF 450 spring rubber added at times
                    RF 300-325
                    LR 125
                    RR 250
                    5th 250
                    6th 450
                    53.8 % rear
                    53.8 % left
                    60 lbs bite
                    J bar 9" frame one hole up pinion

                    Overall car is good, but need to be tentative going into turn coming out of throttle. 4 wheel all front braking

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                    • 7uptruckracer
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 1336

                      #11
                      Originally posted by parocket View Post
                      LF 450 spring rubber added at times
                      RF 300-325
                      LR 125
                      RR 250
                      5th 250
                      6th 450
                      53.8 % rear
                      53.8 % left
                      60 lbs bite
                      J bar 9" frame one hole up pinion

                      Overall car is good, but need to be tentative going into turn coming out of throttle. 4 wheel all front braking
                      6th should be a 350 that could be a lot of it

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                      • grt74
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 1380

                        #12
                        lf but entry only,rr spring entire corner(but will help turn off also,in the slick it helps),or rr bottom bar if you can go down
                        if the car is really good until feature,i would start with the rr bottom bar
                        you can build a shock to help this too but if the lf is coming down fast or slamming,you'll have to fix that first,which may cause you to have to change your complete setup

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