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  • 7uptruckracer
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 1336

    #31
    Ah I see. I'm so use to removing all Ackerman in the asphalt LMSC and Asphalt Mod, I get into a mode of thought sometimes where I forget to look at the whole picture and the fact we have to worry about dirt turning left and right much much more then asphalt. I always think of ackerman as dynamic toe out. It makes perfect sense now thank you. I can see why you wouldn't want to run staggered steering arm lengths or just shorten them either. I'm always figuring ackerman and bumpsteer into things and have learned alot lately so this helps some of the things I was trying to think through I appreciate the info. I was thinking about how the shorter steering arm on a spindle would outright steer quicker I forgot about the other parts to the equation (not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word)(not a nice word) asphalt thinking

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    • save the racers
      Senior Member
      • May 2013
      • 271

      #32
      How are you measuring ackerman on the car?I scribe a mark around the tires.Then I take an adjustable bar with 2 pointers and set them on the scribe marks.Then turn the wheels and measure how much the scribe lines move off the pointers.

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      • billetbirdcage
        Senior Member
        • May 2007
        • 2020

        #33
        Originally posted by save the racers View Post
        How are you measuring ackerman on the car?I scribe a mark around the tires.Then I take an adjustable bar with 2 pointers and set them on the scribe marks.Then turn the wheels and measure how much the scribe lines move off the pointers.
        I use turn tables with degree's marked on them, they are off an old front end alignment machine. I go more off degree's then a measurement of toe change, it's just what I'm used too.

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        • 7uptruckracer
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 1336

          #34
          This is what I use as well they are heavy as sin but were free. I've actually had the thousand dollar aluminum ones move with an asphalt LMSC on them at around 12 degrees. Your aren't moving these old ones lol it's two hands and a grunt to pickup. They use to slide into the old alignment frame racks

          Originally posted by billetbirdcage View Post
          I use turn tables with degree's marked on them, they are off an old front end alignment machine. I go more off degree's then a measurement of toe change, it's just what I'm used too.

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          • billetbirdcage
            Senior Member
            • May 2007
            • 2020

            #35
            Originally posted by 7uptruckracer View Post
            This is what I use as well they are heavy as sin but were free. I've actually had the thousand dollar aluminum ones move with an asphalt LMSC on them at around 12 degrees. Your aren't moving these old ones lol it's two hands and a grunt to pickup. They use to slide into the old alignment frame racks
            Same here, old steel ones that slide into a old Hunter alignment machine. They are likely from the 80's or older not really sure.

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            • save the racers
              Senior Member
              • May 2013
              • 271

              #36
              Do you guys agree with this statement- When driving down the straightaway the car is driving off the r/f.If the car has 1'' off static toe out, all of the toe out is then in the l/f.The l/f is toed out 1'' to the direction of the car.

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